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Hi

Quick background, I've been playing since HW but I never started crafting till I started an FC. That was SB and now in ShB I am now racing to get all of them and my gathers to 80 before EW. So my experience is probably lacking in comparison.

I just wanted to know how everyone would feel about this idea, don't know if its already been said but I'll say it anyway.

Would it be possible to have all the old gear from past expansions be come all class gear.
Not in the sense that they are the same gear just everyone can wear it but take the sky pirate approach and make new items that are able to be glam for all classes but make it so they are only craftable not bought from a vendor or found in a dungeon.
They can be per level they would be acquired in game or the next crafting wave for the new expansion doesn't matter how its leveled.

I know Yoshi P said that he didn't want to do something similar to this cause it would remove the class identity but honestly from all the glams I see its hard to say that it hasn't already. Granted there are some who keep the raw look but majority really dont. I also believe that class identity is more lock to you weapon and icon then anything. Why would it matter what my character looks like

No I have some sense here. I think artifact gear and weapons are the definition of a class and they are just for that class and should stay that way. Plus if they did this idea in a metaphoric sort of speak, it would make achieving them all the more special.
So no I don't want artifact gear to be in that category, this was for more of the dungeon, raid, and crafting gear group. Things that unique should stay that way. ;)

Just thought it would spice up the glam chase to even more heights is all maybe its impossible idk but I would love some input on this whether or not its is.

Yeah it's a long overdue change. Maybe not ACTUALLY making it all all-job equippable, since that confuses the leveling process of gearing a lot, but a common suggestion and indeed the way that FF11 did it is that if you have a job that can equip a piece of gear, then you were fully free to use that as 'glamour' in that game on any job you like.

Anyone with a Dragoon at 80 should freely be able to glamour any piece of Dragoon equipment in the game (sans weapon obviously) to any other class at their leisure, and so on and so forth for every job.

I actually really appreciate people wearing job identifiable gear when hunting around for an Aetherical Mimicry target.
There are things to consider before allowing someone on WAR to wear DRG AF.

If you're referring to role gear, I'm on board with the idea. There's already a significant amount of overlap in armor design for the role sets, not to mention the more generic glamours that you mention.

If you're referring to artifact gear, I disagree. Each class/job should have something unique to its identity.

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Originally Posted by Aurida

Yeah it's a long overdue change. Maybe not ACTUALLY making it all all-job equippable, since that confuses the leveling process of gearing a lot, but a common suggestion and indeed the way that FF11 did it is that if you have a job that can equip a piece of gear, then you were fully free to use that as 'glamour' in that game on any job you like.

Anyone with a Dragoon at 80 should freely be able to glamour any piece of Dragoon equipment in the game (sans weapon obviously) to any other class at their leisure, and so on and so forth for every job.

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Not a bad idea to have it locked behind your lvl but I was saying have it be behind craft and make is a lvl 1 item like the sky pirate gear but to have the ability to craft it obviously you would need the lvl corresponding to the gears actual lvl

My reasoning is that it gives crafters a lot to do not saying they don't have a lot just more freedom during each lvl, as well as pull some more people into it to chase glam ever more, and it wouldn't force devs to make new models just adjust stats and turn it into a new item same look

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

If you're referring to role gear, I'm on board with the idea. There's already a significant amount of overlap in armor design for the role sets, not to mention the more generic glamours that you mention.

If you're referring to artifact gear, I disagree. Each class/job should have something unique to its identity.

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See I knew this would pop up with the whole artifact gear but I couldn't post fast enough to end it.

No I have some sense here. I think artifact gear and weapons are the definition of a class and they are just for that class and should stay that way. Plus if they did this idea in a metaphoric sort of speak, it would make achieving them all the more special.
So no I don't want artifact gear to be in that category, this was for more of the dungeon, raid, and crafting gear group. Things that unique should stay that way.

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Originally Posted by Vatom

See I knew this would pop up with the whole artifact gear but I couldn't post fast enough to end it.

No I have some sense here. I think artifact gear and weapons are the definition of a class and they are just for that class and should stay that way. Plus if they did this idea in a metaphoric sort of speak, it would make achieving them all the more special.
So no I don't want artifact gear to be in that category, this was for more of the dungeon, raid, and crafting gear group. Things that unique should stay that way.

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No worries! You can add an edit to your original post to clarify that in case others start to reply without reading the rest of the thread.

So I hope this edit fixed a bit of it the confusion but I really would like everyone's opinion on this maybe it could become something if worth..or not.

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Originally Posted by Vatom

So I hope this edit fixed a bit of it the confusion but I really would like everyone's opinion on this maybe it could become something if worth..or not.

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What was edited? I read your initial post almost 2 weeks ago. Forgive me, but I can't remember the original form well enough to note what's different.