Allow RDM Verraise at much lower level

I realize the intent is to teach healers not to die at low levels, but roulettes can be really frustrating when we have to wipe because the healer dies. It's far more frustrating to have to do the boss all over again.

RDM folk really don't practice verraise as often as they should and it would be more beneficial at lower levels to not suddenly be introduced to a very different mechanic that frustrates teams later on in the game.

I feel like the solution to this is to introduce it earlier. There's no harm in letting us raise in roulettes.

I'm fine with us not having Verraise until Stormblood content. It's not our job to carry everyone all the time, and it's fine to expect everyone else to just get better so that they don't have to rely on the RDM as a crutch.

If other people are frustrated with RDMs not raising later, they need to not die. We can and should raise if it'll save the run; however, a lot of people overestimate the importance of a RDM raise. They often expect us to raise at unnecessary times like when both healers are still up, or at inconvenient times like when we're about to start a melee combo, or when the person who's down looks so fresh they probably don't know they're going to accept a raise into a mechanic that's going to kill them again anyway.

no as wiping before stormblood should be very rare anyways we dont need more crutches for wiping. When people dont wipe they dont learn and is why people still runaway from stack markers

A lot of low level healing has been removed over time. Both tanks used to have access to bloodbath, PLD also had access to cure and stoneskin which at the time were not bad tools and WAR could basically heal themselves in tank stance, SMN physick was still viable like cure on PLD and BLM even had access to it aswell along with their infinite mp pool in umbral ice.

Obviously none of this was as effective as an actual healer but it did mean most of these jobs could carry healing if the healer went down for one boss fight. Now basically all of that has been removed but old content is also a breeze with how overgeared most people are and a lot of healing skills are accessed at later levels like PLD clemency and yes RDM vercure and veraise.

It's not like it would change much... You'd still face the same issue whenever your group has no SMN / RDM

A proper solution would be to allow the use of Pheonix Down in dungeons.

Could simply be a 6s cast

It's not like allowing DPS to rew their healer would be game breaking or anything.
We're talking about dungeons there...

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Originally Posted by Rongway

I'm fine with us not having Verraise until Stormblood content. It's not our job to carry everyone all the time, and it's fine to expect everyone else to just get better so that they don't have to rely on the RDM as a crutch.

If other people are frustrated with RDMs not raising later, they need to not die. We can and should raise if it'll save the run; however, a lot of people overestimate the importance of a RDM raise. They often expect us to raise at unnecessary times like when both healers are still up, or at inconvenient times like when we're about to start a melee combo, or when the person who's down looks so fresh they probably don't know they're going to accept a raise into a mechanic that's going to kill them again anyway.

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I think that’s why the raise is so late in the game, because it’s not our primary focus, you learn your primary focus and then get Verraise. Since they normalized the MP pools, RDM isn’t the rezbot they used to be anyway, which is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Cabalabob

A lot of low level healing has been removed over time. Both tanks used to have access to bloodbath, PLD also had access to cure and stoneskin which at the time were not bad tools and WAR could basically heal themselves in tank stance, SMN physick was still viable like cure on PLD and BLM even had access to it aswell along with their infinite mp pool in umbral ice.

Obviously none of this was as effective as an actual healer but it did mean most of these jobs could carry healing if the healer went down for one boss fight. Now basically all of that has been removed but old content is also a breeze with how overgeared most people are and a lot of healing skills are accessed at later levels like PLD clemency and yes RDM vercure and veraise.

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Anything that can kill you at low levels is because either your healer went afk to go grab a sandwich or because of a major failure of a mechanic, neither of which spot healing could handle.

If RDM being unable to verraise is a problem, the problem is not the RDM's lack of Verraise.

Nah, just remove it.