Housing Abuse

A lot of people complain that there are not enough plots, and maybe that is partly true, but a lot of the blame falls at the feet of those who abuse the housing system to make some gil.

On Behemoth in the Mist, Ward 12, Plot 5 there is someone trying to sell their FC. How do I know this? Not only do they announce it in their FC slogan but they were begging for buyers in the Novice Network and was asking for 300 mil!! This person says they are transferring DCs and they are HOLDING the plot hostage with a throwaway character until someone pays their price!!

How is this fair? I've been trying to get a large for so long but as long as the system allows for people like the owner of that plot to snatch up a plot and then sell it at 6 TIMES THE PRICE THEY PAID nobody will ever be able to move up!!!!

Do something about this. Either make it impossible for anyone to sell houses or make it easy for everyone!!

Also, there is a plot in my ward in the Goblet that has been sitting undeveloped for weeks now. When I say undeveloped, I mean that there is no house on it. This person is just waiting for a better plot to open up so they can transfer. This should not be allowed. There are plenty of people out there who would love that plot and will build on it and treasure it, and not let it sit there with no house. There should be a limit on how much time a plot can sit undeveloped before the land is relinquished!!

It's sad but I suppose if you yourself are desperate can list an ad in partyfinder looking to buy an fc or relocation and put what you are willing to pay. Not sure how legal that is but seems to be the modus operandi lately. Imo it sucks. I can kind of see the tendrils of a ghetto remake of ultima online style housing but nothing compared to how Ultima Online housing wise. I been tempted lately to fire that back up just for the housing but I really don't have time to give ffxiv and uo a fair shake with things the way they are. Honestly if I wasn't so burnt out on UO I'd have left this and went back to it long ago. I played that game like 14 years or so on and off. Pretty sure I am done with it.

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Originally Posted by Veliaire

A lot of people complain that there are not enough plots, and maybe that is partly true, but a lot of the blame falls at the feet of those who abuse the housing system to make some gil.

On Behemoth in the Mist, Ward 12, Plot 5 there is someone trying to sell their FC. How do I know this? Not only do they announce it in their FC slogan but they were begging for buyers in the Novice Network and was asking for 300 mil!! This person says they are transferring DCs and they are HOLDING the plot hostage with a throwaway character until someone pays their price!!

How is this fair? I've been trying to get a large for so long but as long as the system allows for people like the owner of that plot to snatch up a plot and then sell it at 6 TIMES THE PRICE THEY PAID nobody will ever be able to move up!!!!

Do something about this. Either make it impossible for anyone to sell houses or make it easy for everyone!!

Also, there is a plot in my ward in the Goblet that has been sitting undeveloped for weeks now. When I say undeveloped, I mean that there is no house on it. This person is just waiting for a better plot to open up so they can transfer. This should not be allowed. There are plenty of people out there who would love that plot and will build on it and treasure it, and not let it sit there with no house. There should be a limit on how much time a plot can sit undeveloped before the land is relinquished!!

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I don't think they removed the 30 day requirement to put a house on it or they lose the lot or did they removed it from game?


But as for the selling in PF of plots and such. It sucks. I seen in PF someone advertising to buy a Med at any price gil or real money. yes they put that in the pf description.

If they're advertising it in Novice Network or any other game chat channel, report it to the GMs.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

I don't think they removed the 30 day requirement to put a house on it or they lose the lot or did they removed it from game?

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The requirement is still there but it might be tied to the demolition system in general (the information at the Resident Caretaker isn't clear). With demolition suspended, a plot without an estate hall might not be getting reclaimed.

There also have been a few cases where the owner will add the estate hall so it can be entered to prevent demolition then remove it after they've entered because they like owning an empty plot of grass. Might seem weird but people do weirder things and it's not necessarily intended as some sort action to spite others.

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Originally Posted by Veliaire

A lot of people complain that there are not enough plots, and maybe that is partly true, but a lot of the blame falls at the feet of those who abuse the housing system to make some gil.

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These people are making a bad situation worse and while I agree that dealing with them would make things better, it would not change that there just aren't enough houses. These people have a market to exploit because there is a housing shortage. Address the shortage, then the problem with abuse would diminish.

But unfortunately the game's population is growing at a rate faster than wards are being added. The ward system is unsustainable. I wish SE would leave it behind or put in a proper instanced housing system to exist alongside it.

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Originally Posted by Veliaire

A lot of people complain that there are not enough plots, and maybe that is partly true, but a lot of the blame falls at the feet of those who abuse the housing system to make some gil.

On Behemoth in the Mist, Ward 12, Plot 5 there is someone trying to sell their FC. How do I know this? Not only do they announce it in their FC slogan but they were begging for buyers in the Novice Network and was asking for 300 mil!! This person says they are transferring DCs and they are HOLDING the plot hostage with a throwaway character until someone pays their price!!

How is this fair? I've been trying to get a large for so long but as long as the system allows for people like the owner of that plot to snatch up a plot and then sell it at 6 TIMES THE PRICE THEY PAID nobody will ever be able to move up!!!!

Do something about this. Either make it impossible for anyone to sell houses or make it easy for everyone!!

Also, there is a plot in my ward in the Goblet that has been sitting undeveloped for weeks now. When I say undeveloped, I mean that there is no house on it. This person is just waiting for a better plot to open up so they can transfer. This should not be allowed. There are plenty of people out there who would love that plot and will build on it and treasure it, and not let it sit there with no house. There should be a limit on how much time a plot can sit undeveloped before the land is relinquished!!

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Fair or not fair, what they are doing is not against any TOS. As long they don't demand real currency for it.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

I don't think they removed the 30 day requirement to put a house on it or they lose the lot or did they removed it from game?

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Most likely part of the auto demo system, we had plots unbuilt houses for 6+ months on Zodiark and this was before the plot expansions.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

I don't think they removed the 30 day requirement to put a house on it or they lose the lot or did they removed it from game?

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You have to enter the house once every 45 days. If there is no house built you can't do that and it will activate auto demolition and the house plot will be lost.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

You have to enter the house once every 45 days. If there is no house built you can't do that and it will activate auto demolition and the house plot will be lost.

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Got it. I haven't seen any empty plots for a long time on faerie in a long time. wasn't sure if that part was part of auto demo or not. I just recall it was a message that you see once you buy a plot that you had 30 days to put a structure on it. That kind of sucks then.