Steam Controller questions

So for a while now, I've been playing this game through Steam despite having a Mogstation version of the game, and everything works great for the most part, but I have a few questions regarding the use of the Steam controller and whether or not certain functions count as "Botting" or not.

The Steam controller API has a variety of functions, including on-the-fly swapping control schemes, allowing it to function both as a Xinput controller and a Mouse and Keyboard input all at once.

For example, right now I have it set such that clicking the right touchpad applies a Action Layer that would then make the touchpad function as a mouse, and triggers as mouse buttons, similar to Virtual Mouse mode, but more sensitive and accurate. In addition, this layer allows me to call up the keyboard. Simple stuff, probably allowed...

There's also the option of adding in repeat rates to buttons, or a "Turbo" mode, spamming the key at up to 30hz or possibly more. In addition, buttons can be set to put out a series of inputs, rather than just one, allowing for semi-automation of certain inputs. (You still have to push the button, but it could push many outputs)

But what really piques my interest is the Mouse Region mode, which allows the touchpad to act as a mouse, but in a specific region of the screen, violently jerking the pointer to that section of the screen when activated, then putting it back where it was when deactivated. This would naturally make mouse aiming possible instead of the wonky camera based aiming, but I worry that with all the jerking around, it may be detected as botting, even though it's just a function of the steam API, which is in use in the steam versions of the game anyway.

This isn't even touching on some of the more esoteric features, such as radial menus or touch menus that allow a touchpad to act as any number of inputs, or even swapping the whole control scheme out at once; there's many control schemes that opt to avoid Xinput entirely and just make the mouse and keyboard mode of the game usable with controller.

Honestly either a dualshock 4 or xbox one controller beats a steam controller any day in terms of functionality/usability. But I don't see how using the steam controller could be considered botting. The dualshock 4 has the mousepad, and connected to the pc, can provide most of the same functions that the steam controller can (I believe).

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Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo

Honestly either a dualshock 4 or xbox one controller beats a steam controller any day in terms of functionality/usability. But I don't see how using the steam controller could be considered botting. The dualshock 4 has the mousepad, and connected to the pc, can provide most of the same functions that the steam controller can (I believe).

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Two words that sold me: Grip buttons.

Seriously, even though it took some getting used to having touchpads, the addition of two extra buttons made it for me. This was before I knew all the neat shit the Steam API could do with the touchpads, such as touch menus and outer-ring binding, but I've also grown to love the shape of the controller itself. I know I'm an outlier here, but even after trying the others, I'll still swear by this thing for PC gaming.

Use whatever works for you though! FF14 has pretty great controller support; I mostly prefer this since I also have a plethora of games that aren't so great for controller.

...Who moved this to general? This is a question about rules and such, dangit.

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Originally Posted by Aztectornado

So for a while now, I've been playing this game through Steam despite having a Mogstation version of the game, and everything works great for the most part, but I have a few questions regarding the use of the Steam controller and whether or not certain functions count as "Botting" or not.

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Originally Posted by Aztectornado

There's also the option of adding in repeat rates to buttons, or a "Turbo" mode, spamming the key at up to 30hz or possibly more. In addition, buttons can be set to put out a series of inputs, rather than just one, allowing for semi-automation of certain inputs. (You still have to push the button, but it could push many outputs)

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If it's automated and provides an advantage over other players, chances are it's not allowed.

Prohibitions in Final Fantasy XIV

"■Behaviour that disrupts the game balance
- Automating gameplay processes."

To be certain, you can try contacting GMs in-game (Main Menu -> System -> Support Desk -> Contact Us -> Report Harassment and ask your question)

However, whether it's allowed and whether you can get punished for using it are two different things. For the automation part, if you don't admit to using such tools in chat, nothing will happen to you (many players use bots for a wide range of activities from gathering, to leveling up, to buying houses, and there has been no crackdown by SE).

The turbo presses might carry a risk since you would be performing actions the average player couldn't perform, but I would be surprised if anything happened even if it isn't allowed.

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Originally Posted by Aztectornado

...Who moved this to general? This is a question about rules and such, dangit.

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Technical support is for questions regarding technical issues with the game client, not rules.