Bring back leeches

While I happy that scholars got back energy drain. I also like the way they tried to separate summoner and scholar. So I'm suggesting that they keep energy drains effect but just change it to leeches. Leeches to anyone who doesn't know or remember it was scholars's esuna. That's why I'm proposing this. So does anyone think this is a good idea?

Are you asking for Energy Drain's graphical effects to be changed to that of Leeches? Or turning Energy Drain into Leeches (ie. Esuna) but with Energy Drain's animation?
Or... Are you suggesting an additional effect for Energy Drain that would function as an esuna if used on a party member?
OR... Are you asking for Leeches to come back?

I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you mean. Energy Drain and Leeches have nothing in common. o.0

I can agree with further differentiating sch from smn, although when I think about it leeches were used to treat ailments IRL so that name was more fitting for the esuna type move. When they get time maybe they could just use a new name for sch's dps aetherflow dump and new animation. Next expansion maybe :) Bringing back energy drain was just a reluctant quick fix they had to do.

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I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you mean. Energy Drain and Leeches have nothing in common. o.0

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a name change for energy drain topic, no change to effect

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

I can agree with further differentiating sch from smn, although when I think about it leeches were used to treat ailments IRL so that name was more fitting for the esuna type move. When they get time maybe they could just use a new name for sch's dps aetherflow dump and new animation. Next expansion maybe :) Bringing back energy drain was just a reluctant quick fix they had to do.


a name change for energy drain topic, no change to effect

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Honestly, I'm terrified that next expansion they're going to take ED away again, and this time, we're not going to get it back. And call my cynical, I dont think they'll give us a dps aetherflow dump next time to replace it either, it'll be something dumb like "excess aetherflow automatically turns into fairy guage" so they can say "what do you need ED for? Lmao"

I don’t mind if they differentiate between SMN and SCH in terms of aesthetics. That said, I wouldn’t mind if they renamed all the moves “book-spell 1-whatever” and gave them different coloured glows as animations so long as they restored the feel of the class. Lots of classes have DoTs. Make Miasma into sting and Miasma 2 into swarm, to play into a fairy/insect aesthetic. Or call them rainbow sparkle and big rainbow sparkle and bane sparkle-spread for all I care.

I find it ironic that the loss of SCHs moves is sometimes referred to as a divorce with SMN. If this is a divorce, we need a better lawyer, since it seems that our spouse got the house, the car, the kids, the money, and the dentist. SMN lost no moves from ACN except Aetherflow/energy drain being rolled into one. SCH lost 2 straight up (miasma, bane), and we lose access to energy drain for 15 levels, and we effectively lose a pet action because both our pets are now identical. For all that we gain Aldo (and SMN gets fester as a unique move AND a third summon with a distinct move) and SMN loses nothing.

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Originally Posted by Hatstand

Make Miasma into sting and Miasma 2 into swarm, to play into a fairy/insect aesthetic.

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Man, I would love this. Arthropods are the best.

The Irony is Scholar had leeches and astrologian had its own version of this too. With the whole cross class skills becoming more and more redundant with combat classes Im suprised they dont just do away with them entirely and just have every job have exclusive skills.

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Originally Posted by Raiya

The Irony is Scholar had leeches and astrologian had its own version of this too. With the whole cross class skills becoming more and more redundant with combat classes Im suprised they dont just do away with them entirely and just have every job have exclusive skills.

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It's odd that they baked Esuna/Leeches/Exalted Detriment into a Role skill yet keep Ressurection/Raise/Ascend as they were.

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Originally Posted by Sloprano

It's odd that they baked Esuna/Leeches/Exalted Detriment into a Role skill yet keep Ressurection/Raise/Ascend as they were.

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I assume that was for SMN, since they share SCH’s Rez.

I would prefer more class-specific skills for those spells rather than cross class skills. It would make each job feel more unique.