The Trust Characters take too long to do their attacks.

I noticed a big difference how we the players fight in the dungeons versus the trust characters that seem to take a very long time to take down a single monster. To me this is a bit of a borefest and very unnecessary slow grind considering you have to lvl them all up after the MSQ is over. It would be very helpful if the Devs could tune them up just a notch to at least relatively match with how fast the players actually fight and heal, so that monsters can actually go down faster at the more correct pace.

Well there is the issue, an AI controlled character is never going to play the same as one with real person on the other side pulling the strings. Considering how much of a step up the Trusts are from the GC Squadrons, there is room for them to get better in the future but they will always be lacking in some areas as they are not intended to be a full replacement of real players.

Trust system is there to level DPS jobs really.

The AI will do fine as Tank and Healer, Dps not so much but a good dps player will make up for it and probably level up faster than waiting for games.

The wait period in my server is 8 minutes but that will increase with time as it did in the previous expansions and trust will become more usable.

Not asking them to aoe because then whats the point of doing normal queues
but i do wish they attacked while doing mechanics, at least

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

considering you have to lvl them all up after the MSQ is over.

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You don't have to. The devs have stated that trusts aren't supposed to be competitive with real groups, so I doubt they'll take the time to tune them to be faster when the only reason to level them up afterwards is if you want a title achievement / to avoid players entirely (which they don't really want you to do).

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Well there is the issue, an AI controlled character is never going to play the same as one with real person on the other side pulling the strings. Considering how much of a step up the Trusts are from the GC Squadrons, there is room for them to get better in the future but they will always be lacking in some areas as they are not intended to be a full replacement of real players.

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I get it is not intended, but the room for improvement would be helpful.

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Well there is the issue, an AI controlled character is never going to play the same as one with real person on the other side pulling the strings. Considering how much of a step up the Trusts are from the GC Squadrons, there is room for them to get better in the future but they will always be lacking in some areas as they are not intended to be a full replacement of real players.

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In terms of combat, they're a huge step down actually.

This isn't an issue of AI not being able to be as good as a player. The issue is that the combat AI is intentionally bad. I was studying Y'shtola just now. A lot of cool spells, but she spams low tier attacks. The only time she'll spam Fire IV (her second strongest spell behind Foul) is when she uses Triple Cast. Most of her time is spent casting fire//blizzard/thunderwater/stone/aero. Tier 1 spells.

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Must be playing a different game then, never really saw her spamming low tier attacks at all, they were all high tier (Fire IV, Blizzard IV, Thunder IV, Tornado, Water IV etc) but the damage of them was not as high as you would expect.

The AI have specific kits to use in their scripts, so Alisae isn't going to use the entire RDM kit that a player would, or Thancred's kit for GNB. It's almost like they are on a Gambit Macro system so actions are used under certain conditions, which would not be the case if a player was actually controlling them. I still believe and experience trusts to be working better than Squadrons, so to each their own.

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Originally Posted by armandojc3

Trust system is there to level DPS jobs really.

The AI will do fine as Tank and Healer, Dps not so much but a good dps player will make up for it and probably level up faster than waiting for games.

The wait period in my server is 8 minutes but that will increase with time as it did in the previous expansions and trust will become more usable.

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When I used DNC for the lvl 73 dung. It took roughly 45 minutes to complete the run. I timed it with my food buffs.
But I guess is kinda offsets of the wait time of you as the DPS. Give or take 10 minutes wait time.
When I healed it last night, I had 8 minutes more left on my food buff.
Trusts could be a little bit better regardless. I like Yshtola as my 2nd DPS.

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Must be playing a different game then, never really saw her spamming low tier attacks at all, they were all high tier (Fire IV, Blizzard IV, Thunder IV, Tornado, Water IV etc) but the damage of them was not as high as you would expect.

The AI have specific kits to use in their scripts, so Alisae isn't going to use the entire RDM kit that a player would, or Thancred's kit for GNB. It's almost like they are on a Gambit Macro system so actions are used under certain conditions, which would not be the case if a player was actually controlling them. I still believe and experience trusts to be working better than Squadrons, so to each their own.

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I suggest you take a look at her again, then. In detail. While she does have tier 4 versions of the spells, she doesn't use them all the time. Only maybe half the time.

I was studying her not 10 minutes before my post.

Also, squadrons clear level relevant dungeons in 15 minutes. Maybe less if you really abuse team composition. Trusts don't get anywhere near that fast. The only thing they do better is having AI for mechanics. But squadrons don't even need it; they ignore mechanics completely, because they can.