new job - vampire

a class like ff7 vincent that gets abilities like the wrath and lust items in palace of the dead? it could act like the summoner except you are the summon, youd get like 3 transformations that deal with different needs - tank / melee dps / ranged dps etc.

it could be an addition to the mechanist class ( or not, whatever, my friends just say right now that class is boring and vincent uses guns )

the class itself would be a ranged dps, and you could fill up a rage bar in order to activate your transforms. like consecutive kills, damage received or given, and maybe even a special transformation if your party wipes and somehow youre left alive.

what do you guys think?

Not what I was expecting from the title but yes I'd love a transformation job, dark themed like Vincent.

I think of Harmonixer from Shadow Hearts in that vein as well. Or Dante's Sparda form from Devil May Cry.

Also on guns you could give this job dual wielding guns instead? There are other items of course.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Not what I was expecting from the title but yes I'd love a transformation job, dark themed like Vincent.

I think of Harmonixer from Shadow Hearts in that vein as well. Or Dante's Sparta form from Devil May Cry.

Also on guns you could give this job duel wielding guns instead? There are other items of course.

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dual handguns would be cool. reminds me of the imperial chick in white armor. they could do something like wild arms for it, where you have a single weapon that turns into others depending on what abilities you use, but that would probably be overwhelming to have weapon transformations and beast transforms lol. maybe this class would have something more along the lines of a rifle?

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Originally Posted by Keife191

dual handguns would be cool. reminds me of the imperial chick in white armor. they could do something like wild arms for it, where you have a single weapon that turns into others depending on what abilities you use, but that would probably be overwhelming to have weapon transformations and beast transforms lol. maybe this class would have something more along the lines of a rifle?

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I'd love to see a giant cannon sort of gun lol, but to be honest I don't see the Vincent sort of job fitting that.. personally at least, do you? I mean big giant gun or rifle (both are larger than a normal gun lol).

This "weapon" idea might seem a bit weird but what if it was a cloak/scarf/battle sash (Nezha from ancient Chinese myth). "wot?".. Hear me out lol.

You know how Vincent has that cool cloak right? Imagine if it did a sort of Spawn (comic hero, has a shifting suit with an epic cloak and chains) / Doctor Strange (watch the movie lol) / Bayonetta (technically her suit is her hair but it shifts as she casts spells) / Voldemort last movie scene with Harry Potter as he shoots out jets of black and uses his cape type combat.

Such that the job is a mix sort of "long range" melee with a morphing weapon (in such that the attacks stretch a little, but they're still pretty much melee - not like Red Mage in and out). There is also that boss in FFXIV with a stretchy scarf we fight in the first Raid, forgot her name but she has the Shadespin attack.

Anyway it being a sort of cloak like Vincent would ensure the job gets a load of moody appearances, has a unique weapon, and the morphing of their weapon wouldn't be as hard as a morphing gun since the animations would blend the colors the weapon has vs having to design multiple weapons designs for one weapon (although I do like your morphing weapon suggestion, I just think it might take too much work because each weapon is technically multiple weapons then).

So thematically for the job these cloaks are just more like vessels for the excess energy you're collecting and could even be part of the mechanics of the job - growing as you empower yourself before they envelope you and shift yourself into some sort of monster. This allows you to harbor way more energy than one would normally be able to do safely, even though the process is generally a very unsafe practice anyways (transforming is not something everyone in the game does).

I just think the weapon for a job like this should feel with flow and speed, I feel a rifle job would be cool (or a more extreme larger gun) but anything that doesn't feel aggressive and fast might not capture the image of a raging demon (in essence). I like the idea of a morphing weapon and I don't think it's too much haha <3, but I might be hard to sell SE on a weapon that's many weapons.

I like your suggestion a gun that turns into a shield into a sword, etc, etc, that'd require SE to make many weapons or unique animations for each weapon - unless you have an idea that would simplify that, cause it sounds cool just "hard". So that's why I went with what would be pretty unique weapon but still "shifts" and "morphs" and would also add a lot of mood to the character.

When I read vampire, my mind immediately went over bravely default's vampire, which is basically a form of blue mage.

I could be behind OP's idea of vampire as a minigame that I think I'd like to umbrella it under what I call FF14's MonsterVerse, feature Blue Mage, Beast Master, Morpher and that Vampire idea.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

When I read vampire, my mind immediately went over bravely default's vampire, which is basically a form of blue mage.

I could be behind OP's idea of vampire as a minigame that I think I'd like to umbrella it under what I call FF14's MonsterVerse, feature Blue Mage, Beast Master, Morpher and that Vampire idea.

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:( .. lol.. Another job I'd want to play put behind a wall that gravely damages my interest in it ;/

Although I'd be fine if there was a transformation job + another content that was a mini game (either same job as "advanced job" concept or different pieces of content entirely). But definitely sad if they added it as a mini game and were like "welp we did that concept, it's all done now".

Morpher could be the limited job, and the Chaos Materia Vincent concept the "normal" job.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I'd love to see a giant cannon sort of gun lol, but to be honest I don't see the Vincent sort of job fitting that.. personally at least, do you? I mean big giant gun or rifle (both are larger than a normal gun lol).

This "weapon" idea might seem a bit weird but what if it was a cloak/scarf/battle sash (Nezha from ancient Chinese myth). "wot?".. Hear me out lol.

You know how Vincent has that cool cloak right? Imagine if it did a sort of Spawn (comic hero, has a shifting suit with an epic cloak and chains) / Doctor Strange (watch the movie lol) / Bayonetta (technically her suit is her hair but it shifts as she casts spells) / Voldemort last movie scene with Harry Potter as he shoots out jets of black and uses his cape type combat.

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if you remember vincents spinoff game, he is proficient in all firearms, the handgun is just his signature weapon. but he is able to use shotguns, sniper rifles, and even a bazooka i think. a spawn type cloak would be interesting, and play more on the mysterious aspect of that kind of class/job. but we have a lot of physical dps classes, i feel it would get lost in the swarm. but theres only 2 ranged dps classes right now, mechanist and archer/bard. unless by long range melee, it would still count as ranged dps, then it might work there.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

When I read vampire, my mind immediately went over bravely default's vampire, which is basically a form of blue mage.

I could be behind OP's idea of vampire as a minigame that I think I'd like to umbrella it under what I call FF14's MonsterVerse, feature Blue Mage, Beast Master, Morpher and that Vampire idea.

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i would be kinda sad if they did another limited job or minigame thing with this idea. the blue mage was an extremely deep and fun class in past ffs and it feels like it wasnt upheld for what they gave it in ff14. i would like the class to be as close to what vincent was as possible, but i admit thats probably unlikely. id have to pass like 10 luck checks on top of eachother to get exactly what i want lol ;)

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Originally Posted by Keife191

if you remember vincents spinoff game, he is proficient in all firearms, the handgun is just his signature weapon. but he is able to use shotguns, sniper rifles, and even a bazooka i think. a spawn type cloak would be interesting, and play more on the mysterious aspect of that kind of class/job. but we have a lot of physical dps classes, i feel it would get lost in the swarm. but theres only 2 ranged dps classes right now, mechanist and archer/bard. unless by long range melee, it would still count as ranged dps, then it might work there.

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I forgot there were other weapons lol, just remember my big handguns lol. But good point :).


As for the range I was thinking a third of bard and melee (ranged but not long range), with of course transformations added on top he might change style accordingly.


Perhaps consider the idea it grows/empowers such that it starts short range and ends up long range?

You're right there are a lot of melee though.

Hell yes make it use shapeshifting for tanking like vincent

Wasn't something akin to vampirism in one of the class quests already? You couldn't take part in it of course, but it was linked into the class. I suppose any ability where you heal from dealing damage could be seen as semi vampiric as well.