Please stop it with eureka

its not fun it will never be fun your wasting energy and we are too,i takes me 2 minutes before leaving eureka and i am still on the first island, theres nothing to do there the gameplay is wrong ur trying to mimic FFXI's long battle with Action bar games please stop. it will only be fun if you change the game play in euereka to mimic FFXI's Battle system.my hands are red and full of pain.

Eureka meta shifted from endlessly spamming buttons to a NM train where most people just afk, thought getting to the point where you benefit from the train requires you to do a bit of grinding your challenge log.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Eureka meta shifted from endlessly spamming buttons to a NM train where most people just afk, thought getting to the point where you benefit from the train requires you to do a bit of grinding your challenge log.

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Funny whenever I see NM Train I always think of Abyssea in FFXI and the numerous of AFK players while I killed worms.

Though @ OP I actually did like Eureka, so while I understand some people hate it - there will a few that like it as well.

At least take solace that SE did say for now Hydatos is the final Eureka.

Also OP: You could go to this post here to lament, http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...more-Eureka%21

if your hands hurt after playing the game for two minutes you should consult a doctor.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

At least take solace that SE did say for now Hydatos is the final Eureka.

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But while Hydatos is the last of Eureka (For now...) they did say that 5.0 will have Eureka-like content...

As far as the content goes... It had potential, but some things detract from the experience...

Such as, how most of the progression is from doing NM Trains because that's the only source of crystals (Chaining seems to only give the rubbish crystals and conversion is only the good crystals > rubbish ones...) with no alternatives.

How health of enemies are so high that soloing is just plain not fun at all there, especially if you just want to grind out challenge logs...

Leveling doesn't actually provide any benefit for you, you still only gain in power from doing the quests to unlock new actions/magia and seems to only serve the purpose of punishing people for the gall of dying or entering a new Eureka zone...

Elements are pathetically dull (It's why I'm always confused when people want element types to matter... You just pick whatever colour counters the thing you're fighting and then that's it... Elements mattering tends to only actually be interesting when its on the casting end, such as D&D's Grease > Fire spell. Or Ice spell > Stone spell etc) and even then, there's arbitrary limitations on how often you can change your element type so even if you were to try and make things interesting by having to shift element types frequently, the mechanic as a whole shuts it down...

Like, the only positives I've been able to see from Eureka is that it promotes FATE Trains, which haven't been a major thing for a while, mostly because overworld content has not really kept up with the game, so they're just really bad for exp, gil and GC seals compared to just running Dungeons (Inc Deep Dungeons)... Which is novel, but can be kind of repetitive. Especially when NM's are inherently less interesting than dungeon bosses because they can't have as cool mechanics...

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Funny whenever I see NM Train I always think of Abyssea in FFXI and the numerous of AFK players while I killed worms.

Though @ OP I actually did like Eureka, so while I understand some people hate it - there will a few that like it as well.

At least take solace that SE did say for now Hydatos is the final Eureka.

Also OP: You could go to this post here to lament, http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...more-Eureka%21

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worms took 10 seconds to kill alone and that's just with auto attack crits atma..
in the other hand it takes me a minute or so to kill a mob of my level solo its so tedious

Also what nm train in abyssea what the hell? You mean time spawn we always fought for it for KI Mega boss's pops not the rewards from the nm.

Man I sure love seeing more of these threads pop up rather than people using threads already out there.

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Originally Posted by Jaggerjack

my hands are red and full of pain.

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Doing what exactly?

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

Doing what exactly?

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Pressing my combo and not afk'ing for exp?

if you want to afk for exp there's a game called ragnarok mobile

How are you even doing a normal dungeon which is way longer than 2 minutes then ? You know, the ones where if you are afking or doing nothing, the 3 others players end up kicking you out.

I dont even talk of savage raids where the combo smashing is way worse than Eureka because of dps checks and parsers.

Should we stop with dungeons and raids as well ?