Two things FF14 can adopt from Guild Wars 2.

Hi everyone.

I played Guild Wars 2 for about two weeks and quit as soon as I experienced its trivial, terrible, gathering system. However, there are two things in that game that I think FF14 should consider imitating.

Number one... Being able to retain high-level abilities even when your level is synced. Wouldn't that be great? So at lower level dungeons, your stats (str, int, vit, whatever) would be nerfed but you won't get thrown off by getting cut off with your high-level abilities.

Number two... Never experience gear decay unless you actually just DIE. In Guild Wars 2, your gear will never deteriorate unless you completely die. I think it'll make a lot of people (me included) less paranoid about forgetting to get gear repaired. I'm one of those who mostly gets his gear repaired at 98% condition.

What do you all think about this?

1. This would cause more problems. People would forget what levels skills become available, and berate new players or levelling jobs for not using skills they dont have, or abandon low level duties because they got paired with newbies.
It would also likely lead to more skills beibg distributed at higher levels, making actual low level jobs even worse.
The solution is to distribute more skills at lower levels to make those levels more fun for everyone, not just those at max level.

2. ..why? So you can save a couple extra gil?

1) Got suggested many, many times, and it would be a good thing imo, but I don't know if it's ever gonna happen.

2) No, because gear deteriorates by using it, not just when you die. Same as with clothes or tools irl.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

Number one... Being able to retain high-level abilities even when your level is synced. Wouldn't that be great? So at lower level dungeons, your stats (str, int, vit, whatever) would be nerfed but you won't get thrown off by getting cut off with your high-level abilities.

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This has been suggested for a while now and I think it would make the level experience of some, if not a lot classes much better. I can see what they tried and it looked kind of interesting at first, but with the introduction of roulettes where it is almost certain you get a low level dungeon, it is very tedious to only spam like 2 buttons. I would welcome a change.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

Number two... Never experience gear decay unless you actually just DIE. In Guild Wars 2, your gear will never deteriorate unless you completely die. I think it'll make a lot of people (me included) less paranoid about forgetting to get gear repaired. I'm one of those who mostly gets his gear repaired at 98% condition.

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I can see that being kind of nice, but I don't really think it is needed. Yes, repairing can get annoying, especially if you don't have crafters leveled (one day...) but it doesn't bother me enough to want a change.

I can think of another thing I would rather see implemented from GW2. Their version of fates, that is something I really think SE should take a look at.
Especially how those dragon events are done, those are some epic events and shows how large monster fates could be done.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

1. This would cause more problems. People would forget what levels skills become available, and berate new players or levelling jobs for not using skills they dont have, or abandon low level duties because they got paired with newbies.
It would also likely lead to more skills beibg distributed at higher levels, making actual low level jobs even worse.
The solution is to distribute more skills at lower levels to make those levels more fun for everyone, not just those at max level.

2. ..why? So you can save a couple extra gil?

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For the number two...

No. Think about this... If you die, a good ten percent of your gear condition will be gone. Versus... You don't die and you do well all the time, but because gear deteriorates by usage, you'll STILL get ten percent off your gear condition chopped off. Same costs, different experiences.

So practicing party need to quit every 9th-10th attempt ?

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

For the number two...

No. Think about this... If you die, a good ten percent of your gear condition will be gone. Versus... You don't die and you do well all the time, but because gear deteriorates by usage, you'll STILL get ten percent off your gear condition chopped off. Same costs, different experiences.

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Not really.
You die ONCE, you lose a chunk of gear condition.
You play well repeatedly and over a much larger amount of time... you eventually lose the same amount.

Seems fair to me.

I'd love for #1 to happen. Or for SE to at least give you more attacks at lower levels. Or something to make doing lower level dungeons fun. Just spamming 2 attacks for an entire dungeon isn't fun. It wasn't fun when the game was new, it's not fun now. How anyone could possibly think that Fast Blade -> Savage Blade 100,000 times in a row constitutes engaging gameplay is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

1. This would cause more problems. People would forget what levels skills become available, and berate new players or levelling jobs for not using skills they dont have, or abandon low level duties because they got paired with newbies.

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...why would you think that would happen? Do people forget what level gear is distributed at and yell at lvl 20 players for not being decked out in lvl 70 gear?

The first one will likely never happen, imagine a new tank steps into a dungeon with a high level DPS. Low level RDM and BLM are already strong enough to cause issues with tanks enmity sometimes, imagine how much worse it gets if they get access to their full range of spells and buffs?

Of course it's probably not impossible to balance, but given how they're treating BLU balance wise, I doubt it would ever happen.