A Suggestion for Dark Knight moving into 5.0/Eventual Rework

Based on feedback;

Salted Earth double click/tap to cast at user's feet.
Return Scourge as a proc based attack, base the proc on something that doesn't require main tanking to work.
Make Blood gain consistent vs right now where overcapping is too easy.
Give us interesting ways to spend blood, preferably in smaller increments.
Likewise with mana, overcapping is too easy currently.
Darkside as a trait.
Blood Weapon overhauled to make it more interactive.
Reduce Dark Arts treadmill.

Thanks to those who gave feedback that was constructive, and good luck to DRK players in 5.0

"Grit changed; Grit now gives +20% damage reduction and reduces damage by 20% unless under the effect of Blood Weapon.
Grit no longer gives bonus enmity generation.
Grit becomes Global to toggle on or off."

pack it up boys, we're done here.

I was going to write some sort of response to these but the sheer volume of... stuff is just sapping my will to live.

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

"Grit changed; Grit now gives +20% damage reduction and reduces damage by 20% unless under the effect of Blood Weapon.
Grit no longer gives bonus enmity generation.
Grit becomes Global to toggle on or off."

pack it up boys, we're done here.

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Blood Price can still only be used in Grit.
Blood Price now gives bonus enmity generation currently tied to Grit but no longer restores MP when hit. it's duration remains the same, but it's CD is increased to 60sec.

Tank Stance without a downside when played correctly sounds terrible. Why not just another WAR clone?

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Originally Posted by DaulBan

I was going to write some sort of response to these but the sheer volume of... stuff is just sapping my will to live.

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Sorry, though DRK deserves a wall of changes.

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Originally Posted by Speaks

Blood Price can still only be used in Grit.
Blood Price now gives bonus enmity generation currently tied to Grit but no longer restores MP when hit. it's duration remains the same, but it's CD is increased to 60sec.

Tank Stance without a downside when played correctly sounds terrible. Why not just another WAR clone?

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...maybe once you learn how DRK actually functions you might have an argument.
"I'm gonna make a tank stance be, instead of a constant thing, a thing that's only available for an amount of time"
and
"DRK isn't a good tank."

you're trying to reinvent the wheel by making a triangle out of a rhombus.

The most succinctly I could describe these changes is 'I don't like how DRK plays in dungeons so I'm going to use some deep analysis to just put AoE on everything'.

Seriously. You say yourself
"Feel free to skip the next section if you are not interested in the kit proposal"

in a thread about suggesting DRK changes.

Titled as such.

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

...maybe once you learn how DRK actually functions you might have an argument.
"I'm gonna make a tank stance be, instead of a constant thing, a thing that's only available for an amount of time"
and
"DRK isn't a good tank."

you're trying to reinvent the wheel by making a triangle out of a rhombus.

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I know how DRK currently works. DRK feels bad to play, and to quote myself

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Originally Posted by Speaks

Addressing the state of Dark Knight.Dark Knight and it's current state.

Dark Knight as of patch 4.4 has nothing inherently wrong in it's defensive options or DPS for raiding. Analyzing deeply shows that it can perform well enough at a high level to be useful and that it will not cause a group to meet enrage simply by it's presence in a party, nor is it currently unable to survive tank busters of the current tier. Far from it in fact, I believe Dark Knight is very strong defensively.

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Grit is not suddenly time limited. The passive defense bonus becomes permanent, you also lose the damage down effect normally on tank stance once you get your buff up. The buff is also maintainable through using gauge for Bloodspillers. You are being rewarded for thinking ahead and planning when you need to use aggro vs when you don't. Not all tanks need to play the same, or we will never see anything interesting done with classes in this game.

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Originally Posted by DaulBan

The most succinctly I could describe these changes is 'I don't like how DRK plays in dungeons so I'm going to use some deep analysis to just put AoE on everything'.

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I am more than open to suggestions for getting DRK's AoE up to speed if you have some. The proposed changes make it's AoE more fluid overall, is there something wrong with doing that?