[4.4 Raid Spoilers] Omega's Origin Is Nuts

Can we appreciate for a moment that Omega met its equal in Midgardsormr, a creature long-lived beyond all reason, and powerful beyond imagining? When Midgardsormr's celestial home was devastated by whatever war had been waged with Omega's creators, the Elder Wyrm was still capable of presumably hammering Omega into the dirt long enough to flee with a little over half a dozen offspring, and travel for such an astoundingly long time that it grew to biblically ridiculous size and its mane of eldritch fire extinguished in the vacuum of space.

Omega gave chase to Midgardsormr for SO LONG that Omega either damaged its guidance system beyond repair, or literally lacked the memory capacity to maintain navigational data to return to its star of origin.

It lacks other directives! It does what it does across all the Final Fantasy games because it's stuck in a loop it can't free itself from.

Are you not yet absolutely heartbroken for this massive deadly machine-cricket?

Well I don't consider this to be the 'same' Omega as in other games, regardless of if other games have the same omega or not, but yeah it's kind of crazy. And lacking other directives/programming its only course of action is to fight things/watch things fight to become stronger as its means of returning home because it wasn't programmed to handle this scenario. And even if it did return home it's been thousands of years.

On the other hand, Omega is also a robot that is shown to act on pure, if flawed, logic and not displaying emotion so I don't know if Omega actually ever felt sad/homesick or if it just wanted to go back because that was its directive, the same way Android 16 wanted to kill Goku because that was his directive not any sort of actual motivation.

Midgardsrmr probably couldn't match Omega, hence why it fled. Omega surmised that Midgardsrmr was inferior, though they didn't fight to the death. I think it's implied that Middy wasn't capable of defeating Omega.

Moreover, I think this whole origin story throws a lot of wrenches into the creation myth of the universe. As it stands, the cosmos was just a blob of aether until Hydy and Zodiark diffused from it to form the planet of Hydalyn and the moon of Zodiark. But it was sort of implied that everything beyond these 2 celestial bodies is pointless/meaningless and it's a geo-centric universe. With there existing other planets with their own alien life, it calls into question how important Hydalyn/Zodiark/Ascians really are. Is their conflict only important to THIS planet and other planets don't give a shit? What about those 13 parallel dimensions (shards). Do other planets get shards too if their sovereign gods splits into dark/light?

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

Midgardsrmr probably couldn't match Omega, hence why it fled. Omega surmised that Midgardsrmr was inferior, though they didn't fight to the death. I think it's implied that Middy wasn't capable of defeating Omega.

Moreover, I think this whole origin story throws a lot of wrenches into the creation myth of the universe. As it stands, the cosmos was just a blob of aether until Hydy and Zodiark diffused from it to form the planet of Hydalyn and the moon of Zodiark. But it was sort of implied that everything beyond these 2 celestial bodies is pointless/meaningless and it's a geo-centric universe. With there existing other planets with their own alien life, it calls into question how important Hydalyn/Zodiark/Ascians really are. Is their conflict only important to THIS planet and other planets don't give a shit? What about those 13 parallel dimensions (shards). Do other planets get shards too if their sovereign gods splits into dark/light?

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I'm not sure it was ever stated, or even implied that Hydaelyn and Zodiark created the entire universe, or held dominion outside of this one planetary system. In fact, I'm not sure it's ever stated that they are gods at all, of creation or otherwise. (Actually, I think the Ascians may have referred to Zodiark as their god? But they're basically super-powered cultists, so their opinion is suspect, at best.) They're super powerful beings, to be sure, and one of them is literally the planet itself, but space is a big place, and a planet barely qualifies as a pebble, in the grand scheme of things. The Source and the Thirteen Reflections are basically the ripples where someone dropped a stone into the ocean, and Zodiark and Hydaelyn are the stone. Someplace as far away as the star whence Middy and Omega came, wouldn't be affected in the least.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

Midgardsrmr probably couldn't match Omega, hence why it fled. Omega surmised that Midgardsrmr was inferior, though they didn't fight to the death. I think it's implied that Middy wasn't capable of defeating Omega.

Moreover, I think this whole origin story throws a lot of wrenches into the creation myth of the universe. As it stands, the cosmos was just a blob of aether until Hydy and Zodiark diffused from it to form the planet of Hydalyn and the moon of Zodiark. But it was sort of implied that everything beyond these 2 celestial bodies is pointless/meaningless and it's a geo-centric universe. With there existing other planets with their own alien life, it calls into question how important Hydalyn/Zodiark/Ascians really are. Is their conflict only important to THIS planet and other planets don't give a shit? What about those 13 parallel dimensions (shards). Do other planets get shards too if their sovereign gods splits into dark/light?

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I know for certain that Middy talks about how he was a foreigner (specifically called himself "alien" I believe) to the planet, and forged a pact with Hydaelyn as a part of being allowed to stay. He mentions this pact in the Keeper of the Lake final cutscenes around the time you fight him when he drains the light from your crystals. While not outright stated (at the time) that he came from outside the 13 shards and Hydaelyn, it's heavily implied that he was not a creation of Hydaelyn. Assuming all the shard worlds are pieces of Hydaelyn for lack of a better term, it would stand to reason that all beings on them are therefore creations of her (and Zodiark to a degree I suppose, given the yin/yang nature of the two). Since he's not a creation of Hydaelyn nor Zodiark, that leaves one conclusion; his origin is foreign to the entire Hydaelyn cosmos as we know it.

My understanding was that Midgarsormr 'defeated' Omega in the sense that we defeat it in o11. We bust up the robot shell but can't destory it, and Omega was using data from the fight to improve itself. Midgar then fled the planet because he knew he couldn't destroy Omega and would eventually lose. Hence why he had to flee with his first brood, but also why Omega says it wasn't able to defeat Midgar. That's how it was explained to me anyway.

I’d previously suspected that the “dragon star” was a planet, and likely the dragons’ homeworld - but as the astrologians are tracking its movement to predict the Horde, they should only be able to do that if it is a planet within the same solar system.

Omega’s description makes it sound more like they came from another solar system entirely, but it’s not quite certain since the script does treat the world “star” as interchangeable with “planet”.

The sheer distance Omega implies it pursued Midgardsormr does suggest, to me at least, that it's very plausible both it and Midgardsormr are from another solar system.

Unless the Planet somehow started to emit light in some way. It's idd odd as a situation astronomically wise

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Originally Posted by Cilia

The sheer distance Omega implies it pursued Midgardsormr does suggest, to me at least, that it's very plausible both it and Midgardsormr are from another solar system.

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That's something that struck me, too. It seemed a galactic chase. So now we have the Dragonstar (Midgardsormr's homeworld) and the Dragon Star (something Ishgardians can see from Hydaleyn)!?

Also my heart did break for Omega a bit by the end. I understood where the story was going pretty quickly but I didn't think it'd get more emotionally complex than "machine cannot compute its own objective". But the "I think I understand..." at the end made me really hope its last words were going to be, "I'm ... sorr-" [MISTS AWAY]