Second hit of Knock applying its damage before the first hit Alphascape v1.0(Savage)

Date & Time: 2018-09-19 7:54 Server Time
Frequency: Once to 2 players
World name: Odin(Chaos Data Center)
Character name: U'tyada Tia
Retainer name: N/A
NPC name: N/A
Monster name: Chaos
Class/Level: 70
Party or solo: Party
In-game time: 11:43
Area and coordinates: Psiscape v1.0(Savage)
Housing: N/A
Steps:
1. Get hit twice by Knock which is caused by Knock Down while you have the Primordial Crust debuff
2. Notice how the first hit is 300k followed by a 1.5k hit rather than the other way around according to the mechanic.
3. Die because the mechanic didn't apply as it should be

When you get hit by Knock a debuff is applied that causes the next hit to deal additional damage, but in this case, the first hit(normal damage) came after the 2nd hit(damage increased due to debuff). Which in: https://clips.twitch.tv/FineColdbloodedPotatoM4xHeh shows that the damage taken was 300k followed by 1.6k rather than 1.6k followed by 300k as intended by the mechanic.

Connection Specs
- Type of internet connection/provider: Fiber optics 250/100 mb, Telia
- Modem maker/model number: Router: Wifi-router Plus Technicolor TG799vac Xtream

Trace route:
λ tracert 195.82.50.9

Tracing route to 195.82.50.9 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms api.premiumzone.com [192.168.1.1]
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms gw23-no42.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.63.1]
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms fre-peer4-link.se.telia.net [81.228.91.201]
4 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms s-b5-link.telia.net [62.115.123.166]
5 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms s-bb4-link.telia.net [80.91.253.226]
6 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms ffm-bb4-link.telia.net [62.115.138.105]
7 23 ms 28 ms 23 ms ffm-b1-link.telia.net [62.115.121.9]
8 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms kddi-ic-319844-ffm-b1.c.telia.net [62.115.32.106]
9 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms 195.82.61.14
10 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 195.82.50.234
11 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 195.82.50.9

Trace complete.

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This game netcode isn't made for the way you try to solve this mechanic. You see it killed your co-dps too, while it let your other friend survive. You gain half a second uptime by relying on rng server ticks and server/client-side priorities errors.
Technically one aoe hits you but only placed the debuff on you while not getting the 1.5k hit, then the second aoe hits you, dealt 300k because of that. Then it tries to catch up and shows it as that on the clientside. Latency idk. Trying to speed things up and optimize is all good but blaming the engine limits for it is kinda meh. It's a video game, there always gonna be issues like that, which aren't really bugs but limitations.

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Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

This game netcode isn't made for the way you try to solve this mechanic. You see it killed your co-dps too, while it let your other friend survive. You gain half a second uptime by relying on rng server ticks and server/client-side priorities errors.
Technically one aoe hits you but only placed the debuff on you while not getting the 1.5k hit, then the second aoe hits you, dealt 300k because of that. Then it tries to catch up and shows it as that on the clientside. Latency idk. Trying to speed things up and optimize is all good but blaming the engine limits for it is kinda meh. It's a video game, there always gonna be issues like that, which aren't really bugs but limitations.

I'm aware of what is happening and why, doesn't change that it's considered an issue. If anything, to me taking the AoEs seems to be the intended way of solving the mechanics and the big bang is just an emergency measure. Just like with how Abandonment during Virus in O7S got past QA into release even with the huge issues it had, for similar reasons to this. Chances are that they once again tested this in a test environment without having any idea how it's going to act once released. If they are aware of the issues it would cause, don't make the mechanic seem like the obvious solution and then just have it fail due to, to players unknown reasons. Which in that case is severe design oversights.

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