Letter to Mr. Yoshi

Personally I'd love my own parser. Let's be real they are already against the rules but still obviously around. So why not balance it out for console players. Let me view my own parses even if just as a little fluctuating number on my hud during encounters. As a black mage a huge part of my gameplay is maxing out my damage, doing the most I can every fight, testing different spots to stand to maximize uptime. There is no concrete way to do this right now.

We have the "good enough" dps stones but they don't really tell you much of anything except "sure that's alright"
But let's say I want to play around with openers, check my burst windows with cooldowns vs without. Check my pvp damage ect.

There is no harm in me seeing my own numbers, comparing my productivity between my classes. Specifically knowing if this Roration is better than that one. I actually am happy to pug into a group with a parser and am always curious about my numbers. If we remove the taboo then all kinds of resources can become openly available as everyone works on theory crafting as a community.

As of right now console players are at a disadvantage and have to rely on finding a pc player for all info, what if I would like to compare stat weights, try different melds ect? Why would people want to play blindly, if this was strictly enforced to where NO parsers exist then fine, but if you can't stop that at least level the playing field.

We need sone positive community push on this subject, so if you're in agreement speak it here. The toxic naysayers have their own thread on the subject. Why not show our voice as well

Agreed, as a console console player of 4+ years I'm tired of having to depend on other pc players for information I should be able to see myself for self improvement yet SE likes to pretend this isn't an mmo where damage and numbers aren't the most important thing to getting through the most challenging content. This "harrassment will rise and divide the community" excuse is getting old because the community has already been that way for years and I'm sure the same rules in regards to harassing people with parsers would still stand with or without them.

I'd love to be able to see how I'm doing. I can think of several examples from when I first started playing that I was doing things completely wrong and had no idea until I was told by others, sometimes nicely and sometimes not. Being able to test different things and see the actual numbers would have been a great help.

Unfortunately, it will likely never happen because they're too obsessed with making sure bad players stay blissful ignorant lest anyone hurt their precious fefes.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Unfortunately, it will likely never happen because they're too obsessed with making sure bad players stay blissful ignorant lest anyone hurt their precious fefes.

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Please think of the poor souls who can't handle criticism and just want to mash buttons FOR FUN. It would break their little hearts if they had to face the fact that they might be the reason for slow runs and cranky teammates!

In all seriousness, for a game that is so focused on damage output that even optimal healers and tanks do as much DPS as they possibly can, it's ridiculous to not let people know how much damage they're doing. It actually presents a minor barrier to console players trying to get into end-game if they don't have a friendly PC bro to help them out... and to the innocents on both versions who want to try Savage and get the cold shoulder because they don't know how bad they are since they've never seen it quantified. SE refusing to acknowledge the results of their own game design and MMO culture in general isn't doing them or players any favors here. Make it an optional, personal only display if there are concerns about abuse.

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Originally Posted by Hestzhyen

Please think of the poor souls who can't handle criticism and just want to mash buttons FOR FUN. It would break their little hearts if they had to face the fact that they might be the reason for slow runs and cranky teammates!

In all seriousness, for a game that is so focused on damage output that even optimal healers and tanks do as much DPS as they possibly can, it's ridiculous to not let people know how much damage they're doing. It actually presents a minor barrier to console players trying to get into end-game if they don't have a friendly PC bro to help them out... and to the innocents on both versions who want to try Savage and get the cold shoulder because they don't know how bad they are since they've never seen it quantified. SE refusing to acknowledge the results of their own game design and MMO culture in general isn't doing them or players any favor here. Make it an optional, personal only display if there are concerns about abuse.

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It's basically impossible to actually get any meaningful feedback about your performance without some kind of outside help. Want to learn your rotation or a good flow for your job? Look up a community guide. Want to learn how good your damage is relative to your peers? Better hope you have some friends that were able to set up a 3rd party program that openly discussing about violates the ToS.

The closest thing we have to any kind of meaningful damage metric in this game is Stone, Sea, Sky. That took years to come out, doesn't tell anybody anything about their job, and is so devoid of mechanics that even wasting your time hitting a dummy does nothing to tell you how well you'll actually perform in the fight itself.

I don't raid, but yes I do agree parsers are a much needed thing. My own preferences aside because I do like to see how I'm doing and have something to compare against to see how I can improve or what I can do differently. That aside, in an environment where DPS checks and enrage timers are a thing, where it is important to be at your best performance without parsers how do you know if you are playing at best?

That said I don't see why they won't put in personal parsers for dungeon bosses and show full parses for raid bosses only.

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Originally Posted by SargentToughie

It's basically impossible to actually get any meaningful feedback about your performance without some kind of outside help. Want to learn your rotation or a good flow for your job? Look up a community guide. Want to learn how good your damage is relative to your peers? Better hope you have some friends that were able to set up a 3rd party program that openly discussing about violates the ToS.

The closest thing we have to any kind of meaningful damage metric in this game is Stone, Sea, Sky. That took years to come out, doesn't tell anybody anything about their job, and is so devoid of mechanics that even wasting your time hitting a dummy does nothing to tell you how well you'll actually perform in the fight itself.

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Another problem with the Stone, Sea, and Sky dummies is that they have significantly higher HP or vitality to make up for the fact that you're not doing mechanics or dodging mechanics, you're standing in one spot and going through motions fluidly that the REAL fights would beg to have you do. So, the HP bar takes longer to whittle down than the actual boss.

The dummies are "buffed" in that regard and will never be a good indicator for that and simply from what you said: no mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

Another problem with the Stone, Sea, and Sky dummies is that they have significantly higher HP or vitality to make up for the fact that you're not doing mechanics or dodging mechanics, you're standing in one spot and going through motions fluidly that the REAL fights would beg to have you do. So, the HP bar takes longer to whittle down than the actual boss.

The dummies are "buffed" in that regard and will never be a good indicator for that and simply from what you said: no mechanics.

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Oh, and I forgot. You're sitting there hitting a dummy all by yourself, so jobs that rely on party members for their personal damage output (Monk and Dragoon) are gimped relative to other dummy hitters.