Really want a magic tank

Well I suppose we do have more magic on Paladin and Dark knight, but honestly I spent some more time in PoTD trying to get my tanks up and kept thinking back to my time in Citiy of heroes/villains when you had the 'master mind' class. Basically this game's summoner, and like said summoner there were many times my pets tanked while I supported from the back.

Now as cool as it might be to just have the Summoner just que up for being a tank I know that probably wouldn't work. But does anyone else wish we had a job that did things in such a fashion? Heck, maybe have a Geomancer that uses a golem to do much the same thing as a summoner's Titan, but with more abilities to make it a proper tank.

I of course feel it would be a great addition to the tank roster, and perfect for those of us who aren't as much into melee. But what do you all think?

A magic tank would certainly be interesting and put a unique spin on tanking, especially because it could possibly make spellcasters relevant again depending on its utility. Of course, that also means that it would never happen. At this point I'm just crossing my fingers for ANY kind of tank. If we keep having to wait until they actually get tanks right we'll never see a new one, since they've been struggling with tanks since 2.0

Blue Mage as a tank would be interesting use a mace or a hammer since this game severely lack blunt weapons.

Imagine how wonderful things would be with a Geomancer Tank, XD

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Originally Posted by Duskane

Blue Mage as a tank would be interesting use a mace or a hammer since this game severely lack blunt weapons.

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The point is that personally I would want a tank where I am NOT in melee combat. We already have three flavors of that. Which unfortunetly as much as I don't like pets normally would mean having a tanking pet type tank. Though I believe Rift has pulled it off, if I recall it was the wizards necromancer soul tree.

Combat is predominately driven by dodging-the-flashing-red-markings-on-the-floor, and subsequently - boss positioning. Ranged Tank is a wrench in that. They could give tanks a buddy like Demi-Bahumut, or have a tank deploy totems like MCH rooks. But I think that's just about as far as it can go tbh.

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Originally Posted by Malkria

The point is that personally I would want a tank where I am NOT in melee combat. We already have three flavors of that. Which unfortunetly as much as I don't like pets normally would mean having a tanking pet type tank. Though I believe Rift has pulled it off, if I recall it was the wizards necromancer soul tree.

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Well, the way XIV is set up it would have to be in melee range and auto-attacking would be a thing at the minimum. The other thing is that pet tanking is difficult to set up in this game, you can’t heal pets from the party list and have to tab around or make a TT macro. If you have a spellcaster for the tank, all the spells need to be cast very swiftly to not interrupt and be unreliable. The other thing is in order to really balance it with existing tanks, they’d have to share armor (same problem with healers, casters and ranged). A mage wouldn’t really feel right dressed like that. Not to mention, if it you put it on caster gear, instead of having no tanks to compete with for gear in a lot of content (or max 1 other), you’d have to share odds with however many casters are in party. I just don’t see it working here.

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Originally Posted by MartaDemireux

Well, the way XIV is set up it would have to be in melee range and auto-attacking would be a thing at the minimum. The other thing is that pet tanking is difficult to set up in this game, you can’t heal pets from the party list and have to tab around or make a TT macro. If you have a spellcaster for the tank, all the spells need to be cast very swiftly to not interrupt and be unreliable. The other thing is in order to really balance it with existing tanks, they’d have to share armor (same problem with healers, casters and ranged). A mage wouldn’t really feel right dressed like that. Not to mention, if it you put it on caster gear, instead of having no tanks to compete with for gear in a lot of content (or max 1 other), you’d have to share odds with however many casters are in party. I just don’t see it working here.

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Depends on how it is built I think. For example if you showed the...well let's just go with 'golem' coming from the mage as kind of a projection you could solve both the armor and the healing. Simply put, have the golem be the same health as the tank, and healing the tank heals the golem. As for the spells, well like I said you could base it around the fact it's a projection. So some attacks could come from the 'golem' and some from the magic user. You could even have channel attacks where the mage channels an attack into the golem that explodes out for damage, but still allows the golem to attack via abilities or even pet bar.

It's a rough idea, sure but if you can have a SMN use Titan to sorta make up for a tank dropping out a more refined job could certainly work.

I don't think a ranged tank would work at all. But it could be close range spell caster, I think a lot of blue magic spells would lend themselves to that quite well.
Blaster could be a close range spell, 1000 needles, bad breath and aqualung are all suitable for radial or cone AoE attacks.

It would have to have some melee attacks, like Red mage, blue mage has never been a pure caster, so it could be amalgamated with spellblade attacks, which I think would work well in the context of a magitek knight.

And here's my proposed build as described above:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/f...threads/364362