SE, can you fix RDM's aggro?

I really tired about horrible happen this....

I played DRK as tank.
Many times runs in dungeons. Used my aggro to enemies first.
But, RDM always get aggro so faster. Enemies start ignored me....

That's entirely on the RDM for opening too early or just not using diversion/lucid dreaming.

Nothing wrong with RDM's aggro- their burst is just really, really high. If RDM steal aggro from you, ask them to pick up diversion or use lucid dream early. With all cooldowns up, RDM bursts around 6k worth of enmity on a single enemy. AoE shouldn't be running into issues. If they're still stealing after pull, like on a boss, consider doing another rotation of enmity gaining skills before dropping into DPS.

Maybe if the tanks were in tank stance and not dps stance it wouldn't be an issue. I find too many tanks forget why they're there. I'm not saying using diversion is bad but it often happens with a tank is in dps stance.

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Originally Posted by Lumina

You've had shitty RDMs that don't know how to use Diversion then. The sad reality is that many DPS players find validation in being able to rip the enemy off their tank, as they think it somehow validates their ability to do their job well. Just another consequence of not having a parser or any kind.

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Diversion is a wasted Job action on a RDM, they should use Lucid Dreaming to dump their aggro and get mana back, which is by far more useful.
But if the tank can't hold the trash/boss even after that, they are either bad or too stuck up in being in dps stance.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Maybe if the tanks were in tank stance and not dps stance it wouldn't be an issue. I find too many tanks forget why they're there. I'm not saying using diversion is bad but it often happens with a tank is in dps stance.

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If there's an item level disparity where the RDM has a higher ilvl than the tank, this can happen regardless if the tank is in tank stance or not. Also most tanks with any amount of sense start off pulls in tank stance.

Also OP, on bosses, start off with a DA + PS and you should never lose aggro on bosses, and on trash pulls try to get out a DA + Abyssal Drain as quickly as possible.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

Diversion is a wasted Job action on a RDM, they should use Lucid Dreaming to dump their aggro and get mana back, which is by far more useful.
But if the tank can't hold the trash/boss even after that, they are either bad or too stuck up in being in dps stance.

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I had one the other day pull the boss in DPS stance in Kugane Castle and i ended up having to run before he finally managed to get aggro back. This obsession with stance dancing gets to be a bit much when they can't hold aggro and then want to blame the dps for not performing correctly.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

Diversion is a wasted Job action on a RDM, they should use Lucid Dreaming to dump their aggro and get mana back, which is by far more useful.
But if the tank can't hold the trash/boss even after that, they are either bad or too stuck up in being in dps stance.

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If you're doing normal dungeons i wouldn't say it's a wasted job action, It'll prevent you a lot of headache. Even if the tank is bad, if you can adjust and have a smooth run that is awesome.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

I had one the other day pull the boss in DPS stance in Kugane Castle and i ended up having to run before he finally managed to get aggro back. This obsession with stance dancing gets to be a bit much when they can't hold aggro and then want to blame the dps for not performing correctly.

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Did you use diversion?

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Originally Posted by Arrius

Diversion is a wasted Job action on a RDM, they should use Lucid Dreaming to dump their aggro and get mana back, which is by far more useful.
But if the tank can't hold the trash/boss even after that, they are either bad or too stuck up in being in dps stance.

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Nothing a tank can do will net them nearly as much enmity as a bursting RDM; maybe if the enmity is being diverted by a NIN using smokescreen, but that's still not anything the tank can do on its own. For dungeon runs, not much else is such a 'make-or-break' difference in role skill choice. Raiding, yes, but not normal dungeons. Might as well pick up diversion and avoid needless destruction to team play.