Looking for updated guide on MCH and SMN

I am trying to help my friend get into raiding a bit. But since she has never really done these, she needs help on her rotation and stats. I've tried to help from my meager knowledge, so now trying to find some reading material for her, but having trouble locating a good source.

She wants to play MCH or SMN as those fit more to her likes, but I can't find updated guides for either of those 2. Anyone know of any good, current, resources out there?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...GRkOqjCNw/edit

Very nice MCH guide that's partially and continuing to be updated for 4.05.

thank you, that looks very helpful

smn one: Eirene Snows Grimoire

if your friend never raided before its hard to go with either Mch or Smn in Stormblood endgame... both jobs are truly criticized for underperforming at their current state. Dunno about Mch but I main Smn since 2.X and yesterday on our D1S clear I made less overall dps than our Brd... okay it was progress and I had to hardcast res several times but still... timing Bahamut in general can be a pain but without any kind of raid-mechanic experience avoiding all the aoes might be a bit stressful while trying to time your stacks as good as you can... .____.

haha... just another one who left the ship huh? >___<
Rdm don't need any kind of guide... they are brain dead as hell anyway xD

so you like boredom more than a challenge? we seem different in this regard... .___.

(after I played a static Rdm in several primal ex runs – im leveling my own Rdm right now and still can't decide if its a funny or hell boring cls for me yet...)

I wouldn't say RDM is boring. I actually enjoy it's simplicity after being a SMN main for so long. But it's so simple that I feel kinda guilty when I play it lol.

"So you're telling me that all I have to do is play whack-a-mole with the flashy buttons and I can do good deeps?"

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Originally Posted by Neela

so you like boredom more than a challenge? we seem different in this regard... .___.

(after I played a static Rdm in several primal ex runs – im leveling my own Rdm right now and still can't decide if its a funny or hell boring cls for me yet...)

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I like boredom than challenging.

Boredom can be challenging.

Not backflipping off the platform in O1s can be verprisingly challenging.