But what about the bots??

So. Big servers. Freezing transfers and creation. Too crowded. Okay fine that makes except what about all the bots and RMT scriptors? Because they\\'re still here, in fact they\\'re smarter, making FCs now but still thaums named Dkrjfel Iehwhwlw and drifting 100 miles a minute underground.

I feel like this is putting a bandage on the issue rather than fixing it. I feel like this restriction is punishing human players who follow the rules, whether this member freeze is temporary or otherwise. I feel like the devs are just sort of hoping the problem will fix itself or the players will just stop complaining about it.

While they\\'re at all this I want it explained from their mouths why a real person with a real interest in a new server has less a right to be there than a dozen name jarbled toons in artifact gear at the same spawn point hogging Wanderer\\'s Palace instances does, and if this freeze will address that (which it won\\'t).

Actually transferring into Gilgamesh and Balmung when character creation was locked was actually gaming the system. Players who were transfering to the locked servers were actually breaking the rules.

The FFXIV team has been terrible at addressing the RMT/bot scene. Those "actions taken against RMT" monthly notices will never mean squat when we still encounter spammers every second of every hour near the market boards.

It took them three years to implement a simple RMT reporting sub-menu, but without going the distance of being able to resolve them right away.

What happens after a bot is reported? We get a message about how we won't get a f'in reply. Then we are left with three choices: continue to get hit with the same spam forever, blacklist the bot, or go somewhere else.

When a bot is reported, the bot should be placed in a temp blist until the SE Police does something, and then be auto-removed from said list when the account is banned.

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Square Enix has been terrible at addressing RMT/bot scene. Fixed it, because the problem was even worse in FFXI. The RMT they do remove are back right away because Squeenix won't ban IPs or CC numbers, and plus bots are still paying customers, so there's that

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I think you're mistaking their intention. Bots/Cheaters and everything in between will exploit every facet and value of every game that has an opening. The devs are not sitting around in a board room clicking their fingertips and laughing about how Real Players get a lesser experience due to botters and cheaters. They've made no official mention outside of people on the forums (Like this thread) assuming they WANT a world of bots, or that real players have less rights.

I think you'd be more apt to get a "from the horses mouth" scenario if we didn't make claims like that.

Unpopular opinion incoming, but the best solution is to drive them out of business.

When I played WoW, I saw gold sellers take a nosedive (at least on my server) when they introduced the WoW Token. It's a way for one player to spend gold on game time, by buying a token that another player bought with real money. Basically buy someone else a month of sub time and they pay you in gold. The market is automatically regulated by Blizzard, no player involvement at all. Gold isn't generated, it's only transferred from one player to another.

People cry about it all the time for dumb reasons, but it really did a number on gold sellers. If someone wants to buy gold, so to speak, they get sub tokens and do it that way. It's legal, so there's no risk. It meant that the gold sellers had to drop their prices to stupidly low levels, because they lost their business.

Broken record. . . Look, you want to waste time and get rid of a mule that's gathering and not holding gil? You're wasting time.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...fe73f101a5130b

There is a reason why it's done on a near weekly bulk basis. They have to get rid of the gil, removing mules does nothing if they don't get rid of the gil with it, as long as the gil remains, they have a market to work with, without the gil they have no product to sell. Their main objective is finding the one holding the gil and then removing those along with the gather bots.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the overpopulated worlds, like Balmung and Gilgamesh, start to see less RMT and botters? Normally, if you report someone, they'll get banned, but then they'll just turn around and make a new character to RMT and/or bot with. Now if they get banned, they can't come back.

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The FFXIV team has been terrible at addressing the RMT/bot scene. Those "actions taken against RMT" monthly notices will never mean squat when we still encounter spammers every second of every hour near the market boards.

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I play on Gilgamesh and only notice the spammers in the early morning. People grossly exaggerate the issue. I don't disagree that I wish more would be done, but it's such a minor inconvenience for me in the grand scheme of things I would complain about within FFXIV

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Unpopular opinion incoming, but the best solution is to drive them out of business.

When I played WoW, I saw gold sellers take a nosedive (at least on my server) when they introduced the WoW Token. It's a way for one player to spend gold on game time, by buying a token that another player bought with real money. Basically buy someone else a month of sub time and they pay you in gold. The market is automatically regulated by Blizzard, no player involvement at all. Gold isn't generated, it's only transferred from one player to another.
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TERA did this too. But then again, they never really had a problem with gold sellers either. I have no idea if Enmasse has some kind of secret sauce or whatever but I'd take a page out of their playbook in that regard when it comes to RMT and spammers.