I don't see the grand picture. Help me understand.

Water is not an offensive spell gained by BLM, CON or THM.
(on a side note the elemental wheel is all over the place and now it will be worse)

"Skillchains" have come back as self combos, (where is the party play?)

All classes just lost 10+ abilities each (understandable assuming the skills don't suck)

There are not Damage over time spells (saved for a new class?)

There are no enfeeble spells (paralyze, slow etc...)



I am not complaining, but I really need help in seeing the vision SE has for this game. This vision is not like any other game I have ever played, and I can not see how innovating new mechanics in FFXIV a second time will help. This game needs some solid, already tested, mechanics. Ones people know, ones people agree are staples to the MMO genre.

A messed up Elemental wheel, a lack of debuffs, no party incentive (except loot? Thats another story... crafted vs NM loot... jesus...)

If crafted gear is better or equal to raid gear, why raid?
Sit in town, craft better gear, then don't raid because you have the best gear? Um.. k.


I need some help community, where is this game going?

When seeking guidance on the direction you are heading, its best not to ask the horses pulling the cart. Most of the time there trying to pull it in multiple directions.

There are some THM/BLM spells that have DoTs on it.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

Water is not an offensive spell gained by BLM, CON or THM.
(on a side note the elemental wheel is all over the place and now it will be worse)

"Skillchains" have come back as self combos, (where is the party play?)

All classes just lost 10+ abilities each (understandable assuming the skills don't suck)

There are not Damage over time spells (saved for a new class?)

There are no enfeeble spells (paralyze, slow etc...)



I am not complaining, but I really need help in seeing the vision SE has for this game. This vision is not like any other game I have ever played, and I can not see how innovating new mechanics in FFXIV a second time will help. This game needs some solid, already tested, mechanics. Ones people know, ones people agree are staples to the MMO genre.

A messed up Elemental wheel, a lack of debuffs, no party incentive (except loot? Thats another story... crafted vs NM loot... jesus...)

I need some help community, where is this game going?

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i dont care if they get re introduced at 2.0. i want them now since i did use them and did find them to be effective ever since stats become useful.
why take them out now? dots saved my ass so many times.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

There are some THM/BLM spells that have DoTs on it.

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correction, that have dots with a specific proc rate.
do you remember the proc rate of things in past FF games especially FFXI?
things hardly ever proced in FFXI. the only thing i could hope for is that the proc rate is nothing like FFXI

1.try it out at 1.20
2.play at 1.20
3. learn to play it right at 1.20

do those 3 steps and you ll get the grand picture

edit: I am not insult or sarcasm. if you dont know the system, try it out and play it right is the best way to know it, imo

Grand picture: Over 1/2 the current community won't be paying for this in a month. Best wait til it goes P2P and ask the current community then.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

things hardly ever proced in FFXI. the only thing i could hope for is that the proc rate is nothing like FFXI

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Um, I think you mean when people didn't gear for enfeebling did things "not proc", because I'm pretty damn sure my enfeebles were rarely resisted as my RDM unless they have flatout resistance to it, for example Shiva resisting ice and earth based enfeebles. Things proc'd all the time if you didn't suck, plain and simple. Even my Blue Mage debuffs proc'd, you know, lowering defense, attack, evasion a powerful slow (before slow II became common place) and 3 - 4 sleeps (at the time)? When exactly did you play FFXI? Because I honestly don't remember enfeebles ever having a "never proc'd" period post 2002.

It was Final Fantasy VII did debuffs truly not matter in the long run, stuff like Poison and Bio had its uses, but the majority of other debuffs were just plain useless.

for gods sake, self combos AREN'T THE REPLACE OF BATTLE REGIMENT. no one said that. The actual replace it's still TBA.

Trying to explain anything with any certainty would be like the blind leading the blind. We all know only what the devs have told us, which is partial at best.

All we can hope for is that it makes enough sense in the "try it and see" period post 1.20 to pay for it.