I really dislike what they have done to white mage

I started playing this game again some weeks ago, and I noticed that they removed proshell and graniteskin from white mage. Those are the only party buffs that white mages have, and to me losing the better versions of those means losing a huge part of white mage uniqueness. I was not so bothered about this until the recent astro buffs, now white mage doesn't even have strongest single target heal anymore (not counting abilities like bene, tetra etc.) Yeah the difference was only 620 potency versus 650 potency but you could still say white mage had the best raw heals. Right now I do not want to play white mage at all. Protect and stoneskin felt like they were white mage spells, right now even paladin can cast these and they are just as good. They no longer feel like they belong to white mage.

I would really like to see at least one of those traits returning, or alternatively make stoneskin not cross-classable so we have at least something we can call our own. Yes I know this is a pointless rant but I am actually really frustrated about this.

and here we go with another qq thread. Dont we have enough of these already? Your class is a special snowflake, every class is a special snowflake. Cant we all just get along and have a cupcake, cupcake?

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Originally Posted by Samsta

I was not so bothered about this until the recent astro buffs

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As a former WHM main, I wouldn't mind if they had the strongest protect and/or stoneskin again. I'd prefer they leave at least the weaker versions cross classable though.

If the proshell trait had stayed, it would have been unfair to the other healers because it would have made it necessary to bring a whm to every single endgame scenario. I agree that the graniteskin change was :( they should have just weakened it instead of outright removing it from like 18% -> 14/15%

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Originally Posted by Samsta

Those are the only party buffs that white mages have, and to me losing the better versions of those means losing a huge part of white mage uniqueness.

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Hm, I main WHM, and I never really thought that WHM needed any buffs outside of Stoneskin, but you know what? You have a point. I think think that the devs should...

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I was not so bothered about this until the recent astro buffs

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...Never mind, I'm out.

Oh look everyone another "MAH WHM IS NOT UNIQUE AND THAT IS AST'S FAULT" thread.
So....mature.....

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Originally Posted by Xalvador

If the proshell trait had stayed, it would have been unfair to the other healers because it would have made it necessary to bring a whm to every single endgame scenario. I agree that the graniteskin change was :( they should have just weakened it instead of outright removing it from like 18% -> 14/15%

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Yeah I can understand why they would like to make protect the same for everyone, the graniteskin removal I don't understand though. Completely agree with you that if they felt 18% was too much then maybe just nerf it to 15%. And maybe I worded that badly when I said that I was not bothered by this until the astro buffs. I play astro myself and really like the buffs, they however drove me from being somewhat frustrated with the changes to being really frustrated, since now on top of losing those traits whm also lost having the best raw heal output, making the job feel dull.

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Originally Posted by Samsta

Yeah I can understand why they would like to make protect the same for everyone, the graniteskin removal I don't understand though. Completely agree with you that if they felt 18% was too much then maybe just nerf it to 15%. And maybe I worded that badly when I said that I was not bothered by this until the astro buffs. I play astro myself and really like the buffs, they however drove me from being somewhat frustrated with the changes to being really frustrated, since now on top of losing those traits whm also lost having the best raw heal output, making the job feel dull.

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Oh so you want WHM to be buffed? No?
So you want AST to go back being almost useless like they were? No?
Seriously....WHM is the best and strongest healer in the game, pure burst heals with the strongest healing CD and the strongest instant heals in the game they're not meant to bring "utility" they're meant to outheal every other class, stop crying.

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Originally Posted by Muahbec

Oh so you want WHM to be buffed? No?
So you want AST to go back being almost useless like they were? No?
Seriously....WHM is the best and strongest healer in the game, pure burst heals with the strongest healing CD and the strongest instant heals in the game they're not meant to bring "utility" they're meant to outheal every other class, stop crying.

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I want them to bring back either one of those traits, realistically the graniteskin. And if we look the burst heals of white mage, tetra is pretty much on par with essential dignity, although ed having 20s shorter cd, yeah bene is good but is has 5 min cd, you can only use it once maybe twice in a fight, now we are left with assize which is good yeah, there is no denying that whm has better burst heal but it is not better by a huge amount. Yeah whm is meant to outheal every class, but I am not so sure how it is meant to do that anymore.