Reclaim

What is the sense in having 90% chance of reclaim when adding another 30% from SH2 when all it does is not work? *randomragingthread*
I spent hours trying to gather everything for the new 2* weaverbody and it (thanks to rng) just didn't work out - so I thought ok, let's hope for the best - use reclaim, cause you know that's what it's here for! But not, why should it work when I need it the most....????? Really??
The mats are ultra tiring to get and to craft - I don'T even wanna start this whole favor sh*t again and everything but then it just....blews.... not cool ! :D
What is the purpose of SH2 when it doesn't augment the percentage? I mean it's a 100% then wouldn't you think??? Really SE? :mad:

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SH2 doesn't affect reclaim. SH2 apply to actions during a step. Reclaim is an buff that triggers after a failure/bailout (it doensn't happen on a step).
Its never worked that way.

that being said, the RNG seed in this game in general is terrible and is generally a lie.

the guy who got a NQ 170 tool with 98% HQ rate was way funnier :D

I dont have much experience with reclaim, so maybe there is really something wrong with it. I used it only once for my first 2star tool and it worked.
But in general i think RNG is fine, its just that people only remember the bad luck streaks. Like when you craft an item with 10+ HTs and all work then things are normal but when you suddenly fail half of them, something must be terribly wrong with RNG...

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Originally Posted by Alexiell

... but when you suddenly fail half of them, something must be terribly wrong with RNG...

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Nope, the RNG is generally fine. Bad luck is exactly that bad luck. I have seen runs on both ends of the spectrum.
e.g. While levelling my crafter recently; I have seen with consistently only 18-22% HQ chance and ending up with 17 HQs in 25 items. Just as I have seen HT + SH2 fail 7 of 8 times.

Reclaim is one of those skills that might sound good from the tooltip but it is a bit worse in practical use. This has to do with basic probability. If you are relying on reclaim to give you good odds of HQ, just keep in mind that your cumulative odds of losing your mats stack with each time that you use it. Having to use it once means a 10% chance, twice a 19% chance, three times a 27% chance. That is a much greater risk than simply the risk of NQ.

Since there is a fairly significant CP cost, most of the time you are using it while there is still some hope. I don't even bother cross-classing reclaim except for some rare situations, like the master recipe II items before they added the NQ hand-in consolation prize.

As someone else pointed out, steady hand has no impact on the chances of getting your materials back.

It really sucks to NQ something so valuable, but you gotta keep in mind that it still has a lot of value. I'd be willing to bet it would still sell for at least half of the cost of the materials, so it wouldn't be a complete loss.

Hahahahahahaha lmao
Reclaim flipped u off too
I feel ur pain op.
I too had reclaim botch my 2 star synths twice in a row then a normal synth a 3rd time.
I lost a griffin leather and adamantite ingot in 7 mins lol.

I honestly hate reclaim now and have swapped it out with ToT.
I rather NQ the product and sell it cheap to recoup some losses vs betting it all on the so called 90% reclaim. 90% = 10% so its fair game to get hit with bad luck.

Op u just gotta suck it up and try again.
So is it rare that reclaim will screw u over? Yes
But can u hit a badstreak of failed reclaims in 1 day? Yes

ANYTHING is possible if the tooltip does not say 100% success lol.

I hate to say it, but I'm surprised there is someone out there trying to craft the 2-star WVR body and was not aware that SH2 doesn't affect reclaim.

And the OP nailed it: "I thought ok, let's hope for the best - use reclaim" That sums it up right there. I used reclaim on an Astral Birch lumber the other day. Lost it. Grateful it wasn't the final product, but that was 100% my fault. Well, the RNG part wasn't, but it wasn't like I couldn't finish the synth. I really wanted the HQ subcomponents for the final product. And the HQ chance on it would've been like 30%. Took a chance. Paid the price.

I of course knew reclaim doesn't have a 100% chance to work - Not the First time this Has happend but overall it's just so much to do until you can craft the new 2* items and especially the body and mainhands need so many mats I was just Not mentally prepared to lose them and doing them all again... :(

Sorry, your post read something about 90% reclaim and 30% SH2, when that has no effect on Reclaim. And yes, losing mats on the final synth stinks.