Ninja skills

Not sure if this counts as a translation discrepancy or not, but I find it kind of odd that, when naming Ninja skills, we've gone from the Eastern themed naming for the Lv30-50 skills, to opting for English translations for new new Lv60 set of skills.

We had "Ten", "Chi", "Jin" instead of "Sky", "Earth", "Man". "Shukuchi" instead of "Night Shift", "Kassatsu" instead of "Life or Death". Shouldn't the new skills naming follow this pattern? Shouldn't we have "Issou" instead of "Duality" and "Mugen Sandan" instead of "Dream within a Dream"?

I really quite liked the Eastern naming of the majority of the Ninja skills, confused as to why that hasn't been followed for the new set of skills... Not even sure if the names I've suggested for "Duality" and "Dream within a Dream" make sense, I just recall those names being used pre-launch when people were talking about the skills from various events. Honestly, anything is better than "Dream within a Dream"...

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Originally Posted by Nalien

I really quite liked the Eastern naming of the majority of the Ninja skills, confused as to why that hasn't been followed for the new set of skills... Not even sure if the names I've suggested for "Duality" and "Dream within a Dream" make sense, I just recall those names being used pre-launch when people were talking about the skills from various events. Honestly, anything is better than "Dream within a Dream"...

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The level 30-50 abilities were taught to us by Domans using Doman terms. The 52-60 abilities are the works of our own characters, and as such use the language of Eorzea.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

The level 30-50 abilities were taught to us by Domans using Doman terms. The 52-60 abilities are the works of our own characters, and as such use the language of Eorzea.

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Technically you "awaken" the abilities from the (Doman) Job Stone, you get the message "In perfect devotion to you duty, you awaken to a new technique" at the end of every quest; They're not new techniques you've devised, they're old ones you've awoken through following the tradition of shinobi by serving Princess Yuki. The importance of tradition was a fairly big point throughout the questline actually, which makes the naming even more odd. There is no real reason, as an Eorzean, you can't refer to "Kassatsu" as "Life or Death", you refer to it as "Kassatsu" simply to follow tradition. The same should be true of the new skills, more so given how central following tradition was to the recent quests.

Even if that doesn't fly, having two different naming schemes for the abilities just doesn't create a proper aesthetic for the Job skills. Rather than being "The Job with Eastern themed skills", it becomes "The Job with Eastern themed skills except after 51". Either they should all be Eastern themed or none of them should be. There is no real reason we can't call "Kassatsu" "Life or Death", and there is no real reason we can't call "Duality" "Issou". They should pick a theme and stick with it.

Funny, I remember Oboro rather strongly implying that devoting yourself to serving someone would help you develop new abilities. Sadly, none of the databases have quest text up yet that I can find, so I can't look for an exact quote (especially since I'm pretty sure it wasn't part of a cut scene). As for whether the aesthetic makes sense, that's purely a matter of opinion.

For both DRG and DRK, sometimes it comes up as being from the teacher, sometimes from the stone, and sometimes its something you yourself really do make all on your own. I don't remember the exact ones for all of them but I know that DRG's Battle Litany was your characters own creation. Can't comment if Nin is the same...that said it could also be that if its from the Doman teacher they are still trying to become accostumed to Eorzea, and thus use the Eorzean spellings/language instead as part of their own way of getting used to it as well?

Well, the Dragoons new questline (only did the start, but it's apparent even there) was essentially "In not fighting just Dragons, you've evolved Dragoon into something different, please teach us these skills!", so it makes perfect sense for Dragoon to be developing new skills, the quest was about how you've taken Dragoon in a slightly different direction than the Ishgardians and developed it into something different.

The Ninja questline was about upholding tradition, to the point where the villain of the questline was essentially the villain because he wanted to break away from (in his words) the stupid tradition and become a master of his own school of Ninjutsu after doing away with the old. Again, there is absolutely no reason we cannot refer to "Kassatsu" as "Life or Death" if we're now going about translating the skills into Eorzean (I'm pretty certain during all the 30-50 quests, Oboro even translates all the skills for us), just like there is no reason we cannot follow tradition and refer to "Dream within a Dream" as whatever it would have been called in Doma. I'd much rather see the later than the former though, because the traditional names give Ninja a distinct feel (and its fun watching live streams butcher the pronunciation).

Even if these were skills we'd just developed, rather than something we'd awoken, there isn't really any reason why we can't name them in the original Doman fashion anyway. We probably should be adhering to the original Eastern themed names if tradition is as important as the questline emphasizes.