Healing potency buffs not working on Lustrate etc : Working as Intended?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3069262

Based on the latest hot fix:
An issue wherein the white mage action “Divine Seal” which affects magic only would also affect the ability “Assize”.

This pretty much confirms that Lustrates/Tetragammatron/Essential Dignity/Asylum will not have their potency increased by buffs, and is working as intended :(.

Now we can objectively say that Lustrate etc is worse on a WAR compared to DRK and PLD.

You make a valid point about the WAR, but I'm still more happy with the Lustrate we have now. I just hope they buff or completely change Dissipation because it seems pretty useless at the moment when it doesn't work with our big heals. A shame it's our level 60 ability too. :<

That's really bad... This would be quite a nerf to Warriors as Tanks. They should at least change Defiance then that it works with all these skills...

But on the other hand we have this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-healing-buffs

I don't know what to make of these mixed signals.

No it doesn't. Assize does not have a heal potency number associated with it ("restores HP") - such as Lustrate does have now.

An ability/spell with a cure potency is different than a spell/ability that "restores HP".
Generally, only spells/abilities with Cure Potency are affected by healing buffs and debuffs.

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Originally Posted by Kyomih

No it doesn't. Assize does not have a heal potency number associated with it ("restores HP") - such as Lustrate does have now.

An ability/spell with a cure potency is different than a spell/ability that "restores HP".
Generally, only spells/abilities with Cure Potency are affected by healing buffs and debuffs.

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Assize
Deals unaspected damage to all nearby enemies with a potency of 300.
Additional Effect: Restores own HP and the HP of nearby party members
Cure Potency: 300
Additional Effect: Restores 10% of own MP

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Originally Posted by Kyomih

Rawr.

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Slight correction to that statement of yours (I do hate being a smartass, but hey!).

http://i.imgur.com/JYpExam.png

And no, they weren't overnight changes to the tooltip. Cure Potency has been there for ages.

I still don't get if divine seal is not supposed to have an affect why cleric stance does. The idea behind the skill really should be that it heals for a set amount regardless of cleric stance. As it is you make a choice between damage and healing with only MP gain the same regardless and if that's the case why can't we use divine seal with it?

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Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie

I still don't get if divine seal is not supposed to have an affect why cleric stance does. The idea behind the skill really should be that it heals for a set amount regardless of cleric stance. As it is you make a choice between damage and healing with only MP gain the same regardless and if that's the case why can't we use divine seal with it?

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With cleric stance, you're literally switching your values of MND and INT. Healing magic and abilities for mages scale off of MND. When you pop cleric stance. Your 800+ MND takes the value of your 250 INT value and switches it.

Divine seal does not have an effect on base stat values, it just boosts healing magic potency by 30%.

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Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie

I still don't get if divine seal is not supposed to have an affect why cleric stance does. The idea behind the skill really should be that it heals for a set amount regardless of cleric stance. As it is you make a choice between damage and healing with only MP gain the same regardless and if that's the case why can't we use divine seal with it?

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Divine Seal and Cleric Stance are completely different things. Divine Seal improves your healing by 30%, cleric stance switches your mind and int stats. Lustrate and co are not affected by the healing % buffs (since they are marked as abilities, and those % skills affect spells), but they are still based of your mind stat. If they weren't they would always heal for the same amount, no matter what gear you wear.

Oh uups - I apologize :)

Discussed it with a WHM friend and we remembered it wrong. Thanks for the clarification!