Please Use the Correct Form of Jump Square Enix!!!

Greetings!

Let me start off by saying that I know jump is being implemented into this game & there is no way to stop it from coming.

Given that the only information we currently have regarding jump can be found here, I ask that the devs please use correct judgement when implementing this feature.

There are two primary ways to implement jump (as seen in these videos): A WRONG WAY & A RIGHT WAY.

The way Square Enix used the jump feature in Final Fantasy 13 was well implemented because you used the feature when you NEEDED it. While the former way of implementation only serves to allow childish use of the jump feature.

The last thing I wish to see in this game is hundreds of people afk in the major cities with bots actively using jump or active players jumping around 24/7 like rabbits.

(I apologize for the lack of quality the videos might have. I tried searching for ones that showed both ways of implementation & those were the best that I found.)


Thank you for your time!

I agree with the situational type of jump.

very pessimistic post, just saying.

It's not pessimistic, context sensitive jump isn't a bad option at all, hell the game people consider "the best ever", Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time uses it and basically pushed it to the frontlines of gaming with no complaint, but that was the 90s, where people like just..playing games.

I remember a confirmation that jump would be an aesthetic only feature designed to make players feel less "tethered" to the ground - so I doubt we'll see either of those scenarios - for better or worse.

True jump in FFXIV probably can't even be accomplished due to the game's lack of a Z-Axis. If your character reaches a certain height without being tied to an object (such as the floor), you can actually hover on that layer (though other's won't see it until you descend to a tangible object), allowing you to ride the invisible floor to other locations like so.

I don't know how they'd give us true jump with that issue in the way.

I would imagine ontent sensitive jumping would probably take more effort to implement, and I don't know if something that extensive should be a priority at this point in time. Gives us just a nice, plane jump, so you can focus on other, more important things than making it "context sensitive".

Context sensitivity brings up a whole set of issues in itself: whereas a regular jump allows players to know how high and how far and what they can jump through experience and a consistent movement, context sensitivity can be misleading. You might vault over one fence, only to find the next one, despite being the same look and height, does not, due to changes in positioning or programming.

I just really never got the "OMG JUMPING RANDOMLY *foams at mouth*" mentality. Maybe you're wearing a bikini that annoys me, or a helmet that I think is stupid looking - I'm not going to wage a campaign to have it removed from the game or only allowed during events that require it. Practically speaking, it's not that different from people who complain about the almost purely aesthetic issue of people jumping. What's the difference between jumping "childishly", whatever that means, and wearing a dumb helmet and a bikini and running in circles? Should we ban running, bikinis and helmets because what you do annoys other people? Why do you even care what I'm doing, and wouldn't you be offended if I told you to stop wearing that helmet because it offends my personal tastes?

TL;DR. Likely ain't happening, if only because it's extra work for a less consistent result.

Edit: Just to be nitpicky, no form of jumping is the "correct" form. What OP is referring to is their *preferred form*. Anyway, sorry, done now, < /rant >!

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

It's not pessimistic, context sensitive jump isn't a bad option at all, hell the game people consider "the best ever", Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time uses it and basically pushed it to the frontlines of gaming with no complaint, but that was the 90s, where people like just..playing games.

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I miss the 90s when everyone wasn't a gamer, and gaming was more niche.

Free jumping, fine. Just please for the love of Yoshi, no front flips...

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I remember a confirmation that jump would be an aesthetic only feature designed to make players feel less "tethered" to the ground - so I doubt we'll see either of those scenarios - for better or worse.

True jump in FFXIV probably can't even be accomplished due to the game's lack of a Z-Axis. If your character reaches a certain height without being tied to an object (such as the floor), you can actually hover on that layer (though other's won't see it until you descend to a tangible object), allowing you to ride the invisible floor to other locations like so.

I don't know how they'd give us true jump with that issue in the way.

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This wouldn't be a 3D game in both graphics or mechanics if there was no Z-Axis, nor would 3D movement be possible. There isn't a lack of a z-axis, there's lack of optimization, quite a different beast.

It was already said what the jump would be a more free roaming jump, but not tied to battle strategy. Get over it. There is no wrong way or right way, only personal preferences. I found your "wrong way" video quite funny. It was a horrible portrayal of the wrong way once it was only made to be silly. You don't want people to be silly? In a game? Is this serious business to you? If it is, good luck to you.