About 3.1 Relic

I don't know if anyone made a post already...

I find it slightly annoying the only reward to have grind a Zeta is to make the first step of 3.1 easier. Don't get me wrong, I guess it's nice it's gonna be easier but it does not motivate me to finish my WHM relic because at this stage, it's completely pointless.

What I mean is I've grinded my relic when the grind wasn't nerfed. It won't bother me to skip The Animus to Zeta grind to deal with that extra grind for 3.1 Relic. For my Black Mage, at least, the difference between Dreadwyrm Staff and Lilith Rod Zeta is about 1 int DPS gain. Granted, it helps the none-raiders but nothing more.

As far as I am aware, the only thing you gain from doing this relic now is the title <Z> which you'll be able to get in Heavenwards I'm assuming. I was hoping when expansion would come I'd get something permanent for all my work like an item, mount, minion, title that won't be obtainable like Feats of Strength in WoW. This does not affect gameplay, it only rewards the old players that worked to get it.

Well you would have an i135 weapon with your personal tailored stats to use for not only this next month, but probably far into levelling up towards 60.
So it's not completely pointless at all.

You had a really good weapon, now you have a really cool glamour. If you're bringing WoW into it, you still can't transmog a legendary, and only a few legendary items or achievements were only obtainable for a limited time (I can only think of Medivh's staff and the stupid cloak, off the top of my head).

Customized stats is a weak argument imho. My relic is capped Spell Speed and Det. I could deal with capped Spell speed and accuracy and work around gear and just do fine. We can also assume new relics will either have perfect stats for the job or weak stats again. One reason the made it customizable I feel was because you had relics like Scholar and Summoner that does not appreciate spell speed. It was pointless to get relic compared to end-game raid weapons. Unless you don't raid.

Also, can someone confirms stats customization will have an impact on 3.1 relic? To me, it sounds like it might be used as a catalyst to fuel a brand new weapon that will replace a catalyst you'd have to grind normally.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

Customized stats is a weak argument imho. My relic is capped Spell Speed and Det. I could deal with capped Spell speed and accuracy and work around gear and just do fine. We can also assume new relics will either have perfect stats for the job or weak stats again. One reason the made it customizable I feel was because you had relics like Scholar and Summoner that does not appreciate spell speed. It was pointless to get relic compared to end-game raid weapons. Unless you don't raid.

Also, can someone confirms stats customization will have an impact on 3.1 relic? To me, it sounds like it might be used as a catalyst to fuel a brand new weapon that will replace a catalyst you'd have to grind normally.

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I hope we get to transfer the stats somehow, cause I spent 15 mil on my weapon and still havent capped det and crit. (I failed 9 IV materia in a row :()

youre a bit late to complain about this. the problem is simply : LEVEL CAP RAISE = FULL RESET. thats it. if you dont want a relic quest to stop or end you HAVE to not make level cap raises. a raise needs to be a reset. otherwise new players get fucked over completly by it. blame blizzard for inventing this BS system of cap raises. before wow many mmos never raised thier cap and it went well. what a suprise. level cap raises actually are lazy design and create the illusion of progression while in fact they are resets.

The problem is I highly doubt we'll keep our stats customization. It is unfair for new players that joined the game in Heavensward to have a relic with none min-max stats compared to other players that can. I find it really hard also to give the exact same item to a player that used his Zeta to keep his customed stats and another that didn't use a Zeta.

I think it's just an item to avoid you grinding other items. This is why I'd appreciate to gain something that is just prestige. I don't want to have an unfair advantage that will make me better but something to display I worked to get my relic.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Unless you're changing your main to one of the new 3.0 jobs.

Sobsob.

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This is an issue also, new jobs just won't use a Zeta for their weapon.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Well you would have an i135 weapon with your personal tailored stats to use for not only this next month, but probably far into levelling up towards 60.
So it's not completely pointless at all.

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Unless you're changing your main to one of the new 3.0 jobs.

Sobsob.

Well, for starters this was a given, the weapon that now are the strongest you can get becoming obsolete later, that is.

What would the point of new relics be if they are weaker than the ones we find in the 2.0 series otherwise?
We are having an easer time than those who dont have it. They said that. Maybe slightly, maybe remarkably notisable... no one knows, just like we dont know when the 3.1 will come out, too.

But lets remember the Atma pre buff version, the Animus books pre nerf version, the Alexendrite pre buff version. These guys have shown us they can put quite the astonishingly time consuming tasks for the sake of attaining that one raidless-requiring end-game stats personalized tools of mass murder. Which of course I, like anyone else, cant confirm you wether they will be customizable. But I believe they will since thats a charm for the relics by now.

In the end its up to personal preference if one wants to put up with it to the end, but we know nothing about what they will bring us up against, or when the patch will happen, or how much worth has our zeta for it. I mean, what if this new relic from 3.1 takes a toll of work to make comparable to attaining the Relic from 2.0 from the starter Relic to the Zeta version??

When relic was first introduced noone knew how it would end.

Me personally i dont care if the weapon becomes nothin but a glamour piece.

But if all we get after spending millions of gil and countless hours into it is a "easier" start to the new relic grind then i will feel very sad indeed and most likely wont be going for the next relic.