Black Mage procs

I usually play WHM or level my PLD but i like to BLM when i can. While running expert roulette with a few FC mates, i was catching crap for the way i would use my procs. Normal rotation is Thunder 2, fire 3 then fire 1 til blizzard 3 to regain mp. My question is this.... if i get a firestarter proc on my last fire 1 and have already started casting blizzard 3, should i be canceling blizzard to use the proc? My thinking is that cancelling my blizzard 3 would leave me with no mp and a damage buff. I would have to waste a transmute or a convert to get enough mp to cast blizzard again. I like to save convert and transmute for the triple flare. I dont see how using a firestarter proc with no mp is better when i would most likely have to wait for mp to naturally regen. Correct me if im wrong.

Saving the firestarter proc until after the blizzard regen also allows for instant fire 3 cast at no mp cost. How does using it with no mp do more dps when it will most likely mess up the main rotation?

Well, firstly, Thunder 1 is better during rotation than Thunder 2, following empty MP ticks with a Blizzard 1 if needed. (presuming you speak outside of pull)

MP is used when the spell is cast, not during it's cast time, so you wouldn't be out of MP if you canceled the cast; however, never interrupt your casts for a firestarter proc. Save the Firestarter proc through the Umbral phase rotation and Tranpose > Firestarter to start your astral phase up again

Save the firestarter proc for after MP regen in UI phase. When your MP is finished regenerating, hit transpose to put you into AF I, then use your firestarter proc. You'll get an astral fire buffed Fire III.

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Originally Posted by ShaolinMike

Save the firestarter proc for after MP regen in UI phase. When your MP is finished regenerating, hit transpose to put you into AF I, then use your firestarter proc. You'll get an astral fire buffed Fire III.

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That's what i do but was catching crap for not using every proc as soon as it popped.

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Originally Posted by gehrtalert

That's what i do but was catching crap for not using every proc as soon as it popped.

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If they are telling you to interrupt casts to use FS, don't listen; use FS after your next F1. Also weave TC at the end of your next F1 if at all possible.

Weaving in an off-GCD skill on the last F1 in your rotation will help you use the possible FS proc while still in AF3; if you still wind up in UI with a proc, then yes, Transpose before using it when you're ready to transition back to AF.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

Weaving in an off-GCD skill on the last F1 in your rotation will help you use the possible FS proc while still in AF3; if you still wind up in UI with a proc, then yes, Transpose before using it when you're ready to transition back to AF.

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I almost always cast spells back to back with as little downtime between as possible. If I get a FS proc on the last Fire then i usually never see it until Blizzard has already been cast. Call it a slow reaction on my part of you want.

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Originally Posted by gehrtalert

I almost always cast spells back to back with as little downtime between as possible. If I get a FS proc on the last Fire then i usually never see it until Blizzard has already been cast. Call it a slow reaction on my part of you want.

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It's not a catastrophic loss if you don't want to do it, but if you do want to try to squeeze out that extra DPS, fireweaving only on that last F1 is a great way to maximize your FS proc without stopping your rotation. If you practice it, you'll be able to confirm the proc quickly enough that your flow isn't interrupted.

It depends on the situation. Usually just save it for when your mp is full again (and transpose before for added damage). If cancelling the blizzard 3 and casting fire 3 while still in AF3 will kill the last mob in the group or something then you should do that (and then transpose to refresh mp while moving). I usually find myself cancelling blizzard 3 in favor of using a firestarter proc only in situations where I need to move anyway or it would at least be helpful to move sooner, or if doing so will end the battle.

The best way to maximize dps on any class is always uptime. If there is ever a time when you aren't casting an ability, you are losing dps. So naturally, purposefully interrupting a cast when there is no need (mechanics or dodging) is losing dps. Everyone here has already said what to do and they are correct. Your FC mates on the other hand are not.