Jobs you feel yoshi and team got wrong

As the title states...I feel their are some jobs in the game that imo could have been done differently. I am just stating my opinion and as such it will differ everyone else's.

BRD-- I miss the XI version of BRD or more importantly the ability to have 2 songs going at the same time.
SMN--XI version was nice and I enjoyed it...maybe a combining of XI and FFT'S version would be nice
WAR--I see WAR as a DD as opposed to being a tank...some tanking capabilities, but no where near PLD effectiveness.
ARC/RNG---XI version again...hate/love the idea of being able to shoot and move...but there should be a consequence, since no mage is able to cast and move at the same time.
ROG/NIN---wish they were separate entities, each bring their own unique flavor to the world, as nice as they were in XI I think I prefer FFT version of both. I do however love FFTA2 version of NIN.
GLD---should have been the other tank job, just none magical, and without a shield (think roman gladiators)
PLD---I liked 1.0's version of PLD.

p.s. can we please get katanas for NIN as opposed to daggers/knives.

Warning, you're going to get bashed for comparing everything to FFXI, this isn't XI.

I think they only really botched SMN, it's fun to play, but man, the egis look like garbage.

Yea I know I am...but in my defense, if they hadn't taken so much from XI and the past FF games then I could understand...but since they did then it stands that XIV has nothing to lose from taking a few things from XI the same way it did from WoW and DAoC. A lot more to gain imo.

BRD - I feel it should be true support. Seems silly to tie it with archer. An archer does damage from afar, sometimes staying hidden in the trees whereas a bard sings and is center of attention. The two have nothing in common imho.

SMN - its a nice job...but it does not feel like a pet job at all. It feels like a poison mage with something that follows me around and just attacks stuff. Does not have the FF summon feel at all.

WAR - 1.23 war was better.

MNK - I do not like how much movement it has.

NIN - feels like mnk without the moving. I HATE how when you do a multi hit animation it only does "one" attack. I liked FFT version as well.

Of course this is all just my opinions :)

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Originally Posted by RathSkybreaker

I think they only really botched SMN, it's fun to play, but man, the egis look like garbage.

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I wish they had done a system like FFX, except instead of the summon replacing the party, it just fights for the summoner (and would be balanced accordingly).

Yeah I feel summoner was botched. Not that poison mages can't be fun, but... don't call it a summoner, that has certain implications in an FF setting.

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Originally Posted by Allistar

WAR--I see WAR as a DD not so much as a tank...some tanking capabilities, but no where near PLD effectiveness.

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Originally Posted by Allistar

some tanking capabilities, but no where near PLD effectiveness

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Originally Posted by Allistar

no where near PLD effectiveness

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#triggered

It's like it's launch week all over again. Here we go.

The problem with taking too much from XI is that, things worked in XI because the game was designed around playing a certain way. For example, in XI you had alliances, so your party was way bigger , dps checks weren't crazy difficult to hit, at least in the things I did, Sky/Dyna/Sea/HNM/. That being said, things like bards that take up a party slot aren't a huge deal, bards were also great pullers iirc, something we don't have in this game, and bard was also mainly support, a good support but a support with little damage output. How does that translate into XIV where DPS checks are really tight? Unless it were super OP buffs, a full utility class is a pipe dream unfortunately, and that's coming from someone who mains bard in XIV and I'd love to see a full utility class. Also, I'd love to see a true Ranger, maybe eventually we'll get one? We're lacking in true ranged DPS so it's possible, and smn idk, dot classes are fun, but I think they missed the point, they put the focus too much on the caster and not enough on the EGI which imo isn't fitting for a summoner.

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Originally Posted by Iromi

WAR - 1.23 war was better.

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Also ridiculously over powered and fun to play. lol..

go play ffXI?

SMN. I mean I love the sound of it, I love what it should represent, it's been my first and has remained my main job, but SWEET MENPHINA the execution, the way it's implemented specifically in here is just... totally uninspiring. And when it comes to FINAL FANTASY, I do believe uninspiring is the worst that can happen.

One thing to consider is that any class/job has to fit into one of the three trinity roles otherwise it will get sidelined a lot or be a requirement for any group. Either option is problematic.

Personally only SMN feels off to me but that's because it feels like its kind of all over the place.

Having not played 1.x, I quite like Warrior. Its a nice different spin on a tank. GLD and PLD would be too similar. WAR and PLD are very distinct and with their own style. Brute force and strength vs Technique and discipline.

NIN I like a lot though its Mudra lag takes some getting the hang of. While they are time consuming they are all quite powerful techniques. It very much rewards getting them right. Plus I think NIN would have felt too much like the other melee classes otherwise.