Steps of Faith and Roullete

Please, please please PLEASE. Take Steps out of the roulette, I'm constantly trying to do this bloody awful trial while contending with the usual utterly ignorant community that don't want to listen and just leave or get kicked, and all that happens is they get replaced by wasters in the roulette who promtly leave again leaving the group stuck in limbo. I know you shouldn't have to because its as simple as any other trial but honestly, the IQ and ability to listen has dropped so far low that unless a miracle happens I wont have this done until the expansions out and the guild comes back.

I agree. I have helped clear this a couple times for FC mates and when people who haven't cleared it listen to how the mechanics work it's fine. But, the other night when I got this nobody would listen. I don't want them to make this fight easier because I love the fact it's mechanic driven. It's much better than the go in and kill kill kill trials. I actually hope they add more trials like it. Just take it out of the roulette for the time being. Add it down the road when more people have got the clear.

I've done this a handful of times with a random DF pug, and they were always successful. You just need to put more effort into helping new players.

Or wait a week or two for people to collectively learn it. It's obviously still a new dungeon for many.

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Originally Posted by Dalvy

You just need to put more effort into helping new players.

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I know imma get flamed for this but maybe just maybe new players need to try to help themselves out instead and learn the jobs and listen instead of queuing in hopes of getting carried?

just did mine today, took me 4 hours until i got a group willing to actually explain the strat and to find a group that was actually willing to understand that not everyone in the games knows the entire fight. thats where the difference is. steps of faith is one hell of a challenge but GOD when you actually beat it even by 5 seconds before the final hit on the gate . pat yourself in the back cuz its way Worth it. even if we had a few rage quitter who dont like new players to ruin their elitism and their need to rush through an instance.

3 tricks. -1- A S K if someone is new to the fight . it never hurts to be sure everyone is on the same page.-2- E X P L A I N. dont be afraid to give information out, takes 4 maybe 5 minutes to explain a strat and you can correct it if needs show up and its always better than 5 wipes back to back.-3- test it out: even if you spend 10 minutes of adjusting in the first attempt, welcome to new player guiddance, the next try will be better. and it never hurts to make sure player get to udnerstand how things works in this fight, eff YouTube by the way(we dont all live in there in hopes of divine enlightment towards a video game). if you dont want to spend 15 mintues making sure new players get enough infos? make a premade group in your server LS of FC and stop complaining that new players are new to an instance. you sucked at Steps fo faith as well in the start when you didnt knew how to work it around. dont complain on those who are exactly where you were when you started the instance.

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Originally Posted by QuinceTaru

I know imma get flamed for this but maybe just maybe new players need to try to help themselves out instead and learn the jobs and listen instead of queuing in hopes of getting carried?

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approved. I wish we could see some thing like Maat in FFxiv. I never played FFxi, but I've heard about it like the "must know your job" duty. As a solo fight, it would be the perfect road block for people who are only getting carried through the content. Be willing to improve or gtfo leechers

If you are new, use Party Finder OR at least tell the DF party that you're new so that they can talk it over with you.

For the love of all that is good, DO NOT USE THE MELEE LIMIT BREAK ON A SINGLE ADD.

I've only failed this once so far in roulette, and that was when I joined in progress with 20 min left. Surprised how many in progress I join as a tank, where I end up explaining mechanics to party, clearly a sign that previous tank didn't bother and just left when first timers didn't know the fight. It isn't even that hard of a fight to explain, I could do it one macro.

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Originally Posted by QuinceTaru

I know imma get flamed for this but maybe just maybe new players need to try to help themselves out instead and learn the jobs and listen instead of queuing in hopes of getting carried?

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Maybe, just maybe, that is what they are trying to do? Learn the fight? I can watch vids for days but I learn a lot more from two or three failed attempts. This has only been out a few weeks, but then again, people expected everyone to know everything about the fight by the evening the patch was released... gotta love this mentality.

There are other roulette's to do, if you are surprised Steps keeps coming up, then I dont know what to tell you other than avoid the trial roulette.

"you cant do this fight unless you have experience" "But I cant get experience without doing the fight"