Fix Sumnmoner

Make the Summoner a hybrid Summoner/Elementalist specializing in Massive AoE Bursts with solid Single Target
Enkindle's 300s cool down is to long for the amount of damage it does and should be reduced to 120s

Make Summoner like WoW Elementalist Shaman

And rename summoner to Black Mage while you're at it SE!

If they're going to do ANYthing to Summoner, they need to make it a real summoner. Just give them actual summons, or 'avatars' of the primals that fight along side you and drain your mana. Not lame tiny lame little pets.

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Originally Posted by wylantar

If they're going to do ANYthing to Summoner, they need to make it a real summoner. Just give them actual summons, or 'avatars' of the primals that fight along side you and drain your mana. Not lame tiny lame little pets

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Haven't you ever heard big things come in small packages. Plus with everything that happens on screen would you really want a huge summon fighting along side you. Wouldn't that get confusing, like if you were fighting titan with titan. Also everyone neds to stop comparing 14 to 11, this will never be 11-2. Could the Egis of been designed a bit better, maybe, but do their designs fit into both the games atmosphere and the lore, yes.

They should fix it so that you cannot keep making the same summoner complaint thread every week. That would be most lovely.

I main SMN and do end game coil. On turn 13.
I find it very fun the way it is. Didn't like SMN in 11 as it was more SMN/WHM.
I love my dots. I can only go with the whole change enkindle to 120 seconds idea.

NorthernLadMSP, they could also fix it so that unless you have something constructive to say, you aren't allowed to reply to a thread. ;)

I never said it needed to be FFXI-2. Big summons in FFXI never got confusing in battles. All I was saying is the current models look lame, not even just in comparison to FFXI but every Final Fantasy game in the series. Summoners have always been able to summon massive avatars/Eidolon/Guardian Force/Aeons to fight for them. They have never been a damage over time job. I'd even be happy if their limit break was changed to a big Primal attack if nothing else.

Picori, SMN in FFXI was never meant to be played SMN/WHM and it hasn't been a 'back up healer' in years. The damage they can put out with their avatars is pretty crazy.

don't you all understand even yoshi admite's this class is a huge failure. summoner's pet are tiny and pathetic. summoner can only summon 3 cause that fulfilll role's will the summoner get any pet's no..

if they haven't give ramuh, levithan or shiva egi now then your pretty much shit out of luck. if summoner does not get these pets in the expansion then this make the class even more shitty then already is.


rather it does good dps or not isn't problem "its called a summoner job" and its not a summoner job

lets lay down why summoner-class sucks why it is huge disappointiment to final fantasy fan's all over the world

1: those tiny little claydolls are not what we call "Avataurs" there not majestic there huge disappointiment
2: enkindle is pathetic. only 2 pet's are pet's they use in raiding community. one of them just doesn't get along with the tank very well
3: garuda over shadows ifirit as far as usablity
4: i wont complain about heal and raise sense this class breaks off into scholar root so kinda need be there but fact as summoner. in later parties often yelled at for casting your heal spell. not focusing on dps rotation.

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Originally Posted by wylantar

NorthernLadMSP, they could also fix it so that unless you have something constructive to say, you aren't allowed to reply to a thread. ;)

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That's very true! That would be amazing ;)