Looks like GC restrictions may still be a thing

Qutoing myself from another thread cause I thought this deserved its own thread.

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Originally Posted by Cidolfas86

http://gamerescape.com/2015/03/09/pa...naoki-yoshida/:

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PvP
At launch of Heavensward, we will have a new Frontline battle, with a new map and new rules. It will continue to be Grand Company based, but while before each Grand Company would start at a select location and the map, in Heavensward we will see a randomized starting location which will impact play. Armor rewards associated with Frontlines will also be updated. After that point they will update the Wolves Den.

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From the Pax east interview that gamerscape did. All of my sadness :/

Though grand company based could mean anything, it doesn't have to mean they're keeping GC restrictions so much as the names themselves. Then again this feels more like wishful thinking on my part.

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WOOT!!!!!!! TILL SEA SWALLOWS ALL!!!!

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

WOOT!!!!!!! TILL SEA SWALLOWS ALL!!!!

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Mean while anyone who wanted a que time of less then 15 minutes is screwed. And they could just as easily throw us into any GC as "mercs", so that's a thing.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

WOOT!!!!!!! TILL SEA SWALLOWS ALL!!!!

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Do you actually PvP? How can you possibly enjoy the 30+ minute queues?

You can't...
Race
Play Triad
Have a companion
Join a FATE party
Drop group (if in a pre-made)
Join group (if not in a pre-made)
PvP with friends in another GC
Change GC's without losing significant PvP Exp and Gear
Do most Leves
Take a DAMN BIO BREAK without sacrificing another 30 minutes.
etc etc etc...

Meanwhile I could easily field multiple FL's instances with the amount of people that are in favor of removing this restriction.

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Originally Posted by Cidolfas86

Mean while anyone who wanted a que time of less then 15 minutes is screwed. And they could just as easily throw us into any GC as "mercs", so that's a thing.

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Lame!!!!^^^ Make some friends, form a premade, queue times less than 15 min for the most part (especially Secure) on Aether datacenter.

I dont think that would change anything because everybody is salty with the queues. No GC have a better waiting time.

A much easier solution would be mix EU and US datacenter since both're in canada and the ping probably is similar.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Lame!!!!^^^ Make some friends, form a premade, queue times less than 15 min for the most part (especially Secure) on Aether datacenter.

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I have 2 full linkshells for PvP including Wolves Den. Having a premade does not make que times faster in Frontline. And you are completely full of it if you believe que times are 15mins "mostly" on Aether, ESPECIALLY NOT SECURE-my favorite PvP mode that is quite literally dying.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Lame!!!!^^^ Make some friends, form a premade, queue times less than 15 min for the most part (especially Secure) on Aether datacenter.

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If you're maelstrom on Aether datacenter, you are getting much faster queues then the Adder or Flames GC because Maelstrom has the smallest of the 3 PvP populations. You would not understand the queue times the other GCs have to go through to get a match.

Tell us because I'm curious personally.

Anyone else more excited about the update to the Wolves' Den them anything that happens with FL? ^^

The GC Restriction causes teams to be polarized, and that in turn benefits one GC in terms of more wins, and penalizes them in terms of a longer wait between games. Fewer people want to be on the team that loses most, and those who are already on that team don't want to play as often as otherwise, so queues popping is very dependent on enough people in the GC that loses most being willing to queue up anyway for a smaller chance at winning.

If you're in the GC with the least wins, and a certain number of you are required to form an instance, that might seem like a benefit to you, but it really means that a drawback of the system (the barrier to rapid party formation & instance generation) applies to you less than the dominant group. But without the GC Restriction at all, those barriers to filling parties would cease to exist, and what might be perceived as a benefit (fastest queueing of the 3 GC's) is really a detriment of the system not holding you back as much as it holds back others... but it's still a negative.