Honestly I understand it takes time to fix a game. But 1.19 is end of sept earliest (so probably more like october). And they will not have determined how to do the special classes by then, so 1.20 prob won't be out till december-ish since it will take time to sift through feedback and make proper changes (look how long the survey took)
So that means by December we -might- have a game with a functional battle system.
But it seems like there won't be any new zones by then other than beastman stronghold raids. Ishgard still won't be open. The game will still be a mess because there wont be constant algorithms, etc. As a result there won't be a real economy. Even if they redesign how the zones look, you will still get endless hallways, and if they take those out, the world will seem tiny. It seems like endgame content will mainly be raids so its likely the world will still feel kinda dead.
Further it looks like there's going to be -too- many leveling options for the small population.
i mean,
-solo
-leves
-hamlet battles
-caravan escort
-company leves
-company quests (possibly repeatable?)
-parties
-25 raid
-behests
-normal quests
-missions (which give tons of sp now)
If the game was pulling in new players than this would make sense, but when you have a majority population of 50's all that will happen is the most efficient methods towards SP will be used and the rest will be empty (kinda like most behests are now). This will just make the game seem even more dead than it is.
this is kinda a doom and gloom thread sadly because at the rate this game is advancing things wont be balanced out until a few months into 2012. Meaning the game will prob have to compete with tera and SWTOR if it ever comes out on ps3 (and no christmas ps3 release which would have in itself boosted the population via christmas presents).
I'm going to stick with the game and i honestly think the game will be amazing, and love the work that Yoshi-p is doing. But i'm also realistic, releasing that a year-old game mid-year on a console when the game has horrid reviews on most sites isn't really a recipe for success.
If they are smart they will release it Christmas 2012, but in that case releasing a 2 year old game on a console with a bunch of new modern MMO's is a difficult marketing feat. Also what does it say to consumers if it takes 2 years to get a game into working order?
So what are you thoughts? Think they will go for christmas 2012 or release it before then?
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08-15-2011, 09:35 PMAzurymberWill it be a year before this game is competitive enough for PS3?
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08-15-2011, 09:37 PMMalakhim
Nobody told any of you to rank up all the way to 50 on every class.
They've already said that they're not going to be taking so long to be releasing patches from 1.19 out. -
08-15-2011, 09:42 PMCairdeas
I have a feeling 1.20 will come in October, They'll announce a micro Expansion that will be included with the PS3 Release and the PS3 Release will be two weeks before Christmas. If this is all true. It means we might see the new Gender choices in 1.20 or 1.21.
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08-15-2011, 09:43 PMMBK
hmm..
do you realize that most of what you said is based on assumptions ?
nobody said that endgame content will be based on raids so until it's confirmed you can't just assume that then complain about it, & the way they are doing the game now is to prepare for new players while not forgetting the high ranking one,
you ask about the ps3 release, the again, you complain about having so many lvling options for new players while most of the players now are on rank 50. But then again, you forgot that the people who are coming after the ps3 release will be lvl 1 not 50 .
as for myself, i expect the ps3 release to be around mid march next year with a huge content patch along with it. -
08-15-2011, 09:50 PMMariyaShidou
Let's see...
SWTOR released! FFXIV will compete with SWTOR! We are DOoooomed.
TERA released! SWTOR will compete with TERA! SWTOR is DOoooomed.
Blade n Soul released! TERA will compete with Blade n Soul! TERA is DOoooomed.
Arche Age released! Blade n Soul will compete with Arche Age! Blade n Soul is DOooooomed.
WH40k DMO released! Arche Age will compete with WH40k DMO! Arche Age is DOooooomed.
WoD MMO released! WH40k DMO will compete with WoD MMO! WH40k DMO is DOooooomed.
Blizzard Titan MMO released! WoD MMO will compete with Blizzard Titan MMO! WoD MMO is DOooooomed.
No matter when they released PS3 version of FFXIV, you will always be able to call its doom because *Insert supposed competition here*. They also know this, they can't risk it, so they will release it "When it's ready!". Most likely. -
08-15-2011, 09:52 PMEekiki
What other MMOs are there for PS3?
DCUO? Right, okay.
I think they'll do fine. -
08-15-2011, 09:57 PMFated
I actually kind of agree. SE is in a pretty bad position with this game (what else is new). If they take the proper time required to fix this game up to a very good standard, it might very well be too late to attract a strong playerbase in a market that has been very competitive in recent years. On the other hand, if they have the balls to release a half assed product a SECOND time, I believe they will completely screw up any chance this game has permanently.
It's hard to say what they should do, I've always personally thought that the longer they wait, the better their chances will be, but I've always been pretty patient with these kinds of situations.
Regardless, this game is incapable of being a killer anymore. At this point, I think the best thing they can hope for is to maintain an active playerbase that will make them a decent profit. It's a damn shame, too. This game was originally thought to be "the big one." -
08-15-2011, 09:58 PMMBKthank God you do not work in video gaming businessQuote:
Originally Posted by MariyaShidou
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08-15-2011, 10:00 PMMariyaShidouThank God you don not work in video gaming business.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBK
Or are you telling me that rushing out PS3 version will be a good idea now? No matter when they release it, there will be competition. Better to polish it rather than rushing it out and trying to fix it again. -
08-15-2011, 10:04 PMMBKwhat I meant was, you can't assume any new game to be better than the others just because it's newerQuote:
Originally Posted by MariyaShidou
FFXIV ps3 release won't compete with others because it's the only decent one for ps3 & ps3 MMO players are coming as long as it's good
as for returning PC players, they will choose the better not newer one
oh & i'm not disagreeing with you on the "Polish then release" part.