Ninja damage insane over monk

I'm just watching my friend thats level 48 just destory mobs in seconds faster then a drag or a monk could do.

Even worse is they don't need Pos requirement.

I think ninja's are gonna be the new monk

prolly gonna get nerfed eventually then

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Originally Posted by dippindots326

prolly gonna get nerfed eventually then

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Pretty much, that's what happened with monks and drags long ago :P

Theres is a pretty simple explanation for that.

A monk cant use his positional requirments when fighting a mob solo to deal extra damage, same with the dragoon.
The ninja only has one positional and thats to lower the enemy slashing resistance.
I guess we'll have to wait until there are some solid numbers from raids and stuff to see the real values.

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Originally Posted by SeraphD

Theres is a pretty simple explanation for that.

A monk cant use his positional requirments when fighting a mob solo to deal extra damage, same with the dragoon.
The ninja only has one positional and thats to lower the enemy slashing resistance.
I guess we'll have to wait until there are some solid numbers from raids and stuff to see the real values.

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Part of the issue with Monks and Dragoons I've seen in the open world is they rarely bother to use their stuns to set up positional attacks. At any rate, few players are at 50, and I'm personally more concerned with how the job handles at level 50 in dungeons. Rather than what happens with mobs in the open world.

Monks need 3 stacks /positionals attacks to start doing their max dmg, NIN has incredible burst will all CDS UP , just SATA is 500 (400) potency and ninjutsu can burst 1 mob with easy.

but is like saying a BLM with Astral Fire 3 , and swiftacst / ragings strikes is insane over monk....yeah ....nothing can touch triple fire...but u dont see BLM nerfed because that ....because isnt sustainable...

the dmg of monk on bosses is TOP , and will be always , nin has more utility and less positional attacks , i doubt MNK are in danger :P

dont forgot the ninjutsu, while a 20s cd skill is about on par with fire 3, it can be used twice every 90s(?) on top of the 4 others(essentially 5 every 90s), the 2 hiding attacks are one offs unless you can hide multiple times in a single fight, ie a 7.5s insta combo burst...sorta.

People are overreacting to nin. I'm sure a lot of testing was done damage wise in comparison to mnk. If anything, drg should be brought up damage wise in comparison to where mnk is.

I will say a very good nin will also have really good dps in long fights and it might take longer to catch a nin in damage over a long fight than a drg for a mnk.

I see it like this, drg has really high burst damage, mnk has really high sustained damage. Nin is in the middle.

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Originally Posted by dday3six

Part of the issue with Monks and Dragoons I've seen in the open world is they rarely bother to use their stuns to set up positional attacks. At any rate, few players are at 50, and I'm personally more concerned with how the job handles at level 50 in dungeons. Rather than what happens with mobs in the open world.

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they have alot less issues than either class/job, every dungeon i've run with was dancing around mobs, maybe in celebration of not having stay behind anything, though there is that one skill:trick attack, requires hide and increases all damage received by 10%... for 10s, hmmm, ya, no, thats forever off my bar

edit:remembered there was a flank skill as a 1-2-3 combo lowers slash resist and healing, yay, another dragoon style class(flanking not cowering)

You're gonna need TA on your bar....

Suiton mudra combo let's you use it.... without having to hide.