Lore vs. Money -- Will NIN require lvl 50 and 2.2 completed to unlock?

This has been discussed before, but I am wondering what peoples' thoughts are concerning the NIN job. Many believe that rogue will be released as a normal class that people take to 30, have the subclass (unknown atm) at 15, and then will be able to become a Ninja at level 30. However, this kinda goes against the lore as people who have completed 2.2 know.

I know that gating the NIN job would potentially lead to SE losing the money of those people who may join the game just to play that job and don't want to play a job they dislike just to open it. I doubt anyone who has finished 2.2 would quit over the NIN job going against lore.

Does anyone think that SE would actually only allow NIN to be unlocked via the 2.2 story quest? If this question is answered Saturday in the Live Letter it would be so lovely!

**On a side note I'm kinda sad NIN in 14 won't be like my NIN in 11 -- AF3 +2 Iga boots // 9 shadows = OP as all get out!**

They've already said that there won't be anything special to unlocking ROG, I believe.
The only real question is the slight paradox it would create if you're NIN and you meet Yugiri after the patch.

I don't see them gating the class behind content. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you'd be able to start as rogue upon making a new character. I think the NIN job is going to add some draw to the game.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

They've already said that there won't be anything special to unlocking ROG, I believe.
The only real question is the slight paradox it would create if you're NIN and you meet Yugiri after the patch.

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I think the story will change based on that. Like how people address you if you were there for the fall of dalamud vs came after the fall.

This has been debated EXHAUSTIVELY in other threads, with no real conclusion. Some insist that there's no way ROG or NIN can exist before a certain point in the storyline and players MUST progress through 2.2 before unlocking them, others feel that there are workarounds that will fit within story lore possibly with minor changes to dialog depending on whether or not you've unlocked them by that point, still others are certain that SE will give a big middle finger to lore and just implement them willy-nilly and ignore any storyline discrepencies because $$$.

And, that pretty much sums it up.

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Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear

I think the story will change based on that. Like how people address you if you were there for the fall of dalamud vs came after the fall.

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This. Perhaps they will do it better this time though.

They should make the class rogue available from the start, but unlocking the job ninja requires going through the story.

There are classes in WoW and other MMOs that you don't have access to until you reach a certain part in the story. It's highly plausible SE will take the same route (being able to play ROG/NIN before the events of 2.2 would utterly destroy the lore of the game anyway).

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Originally Posted by Velox

There are classes in WoW and other MMOs that you don't have access to until you reach a certain part in the story. It's highly plausible SE will take the same route (being able to play ROG/NIN before the events of 2.2 would utterly destroy the lore of the game anyway).

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Those, to my knowledge, involved you playing through to a certain point, unlocking that class, and then starting that class at a level that is very close to where you left off with the other class. This is not equivalent. Here you're starting back at level 1. This seems a better fit for unlocking a possible 2nd job for existing classes, or some kind of weird advanced class/job that starts at a higher level.

Given how accessible this game is, I have a hard time seeing them adding a new class that starts at level 1 that you have to unlock. It would be very contrary to ... basically the rest of the game.

You meet Yuguri around level 30-35 anyways don't you in story? I forgot exact level but doesn't seem like would be too much of a stretch to have job of Ninja open up around that time which is not far off what jobs normally open up at as stands now. Simply adding a specific quest after that meeting which happens around level 30ish anyways.