Of PvP & Protect Spell

Last night I joined a Frontline campaign in progress. I ran to the Heliodrome in order to join my party and defeat as many drones as possible. Once done, I went back to our outpost and came by a fellow white mage, so I asked him/her to use Protect on me since I didn't join the match from the start.
S/he was not afk, but Protect was not being casted, so I asked again since I had to run to help another alliance. S/he then said "sure, but Protect is useless anyways".
I was a bit shocked, but there were more important matters at hand, so I /bow and left.

Later on, our outpost was being attacked. I ran to the flag and had to fight as BRD against a DRG and a WAR. Protect was still on (19 mins. remaining), so I managed myself to survive for a decent amount of time. I was about to die when this WHM came by and saved me by a whisker. Then, once the outpost was safe again, we hold this short conversation:
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Today I have not yet found those guides. Despite of this, I feel Protect works just fine on PvP, but I might be wrong, so could you please enlighten me about this matter?
Note I'm not saying Protect is a life-saver, but it's useful, isn't it? :confused:

This might be true in wolves den with morale, but morale isn't fully explained so even then there's no reason not to. At the very least it's a buff that can soak one of those remove a buff pvp skills or one ilm punch

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Originally Posted by Umo

Despite of this, I feel Protect works just fine on PvP, but I might be wrong, so could you please enlighten me about this matter?
Note I'm not saying Protect is a life-saver, but it's useful, isn't it? :confused:

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Seriously. Ignore that person. They were either a noob or a troll. Protect is HIGHLY important if you want to take less damage. In PVP as a healer it makes a world of difference between when I use it and if Protect gets glory slashed off by a paladin. I can feel the difference because I get hella squishy without it. The difference in damage is very noticeable. I always cast and re-cast it on my party members.

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Originally Posted by Zhi

This might be true in wolves den with morale

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No its not true in WD either. The difference taken in damage between having Protect and no Protect, especially if there's a Full Swing up on you, is like night and day. If it didn't matter, Paladins wouldn't go out of their way just to Glory Slash it off.

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Originally Posted by Gor

No its not true in WD either. The difference taken in damage between having Protect and no Protect, especially if there's a Full Swing up on you, is like night and day. If it didn't matter, Paladins wouldn't go out of their way just to Glory Slash it off.

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Protect increases your def (and Mdef if WHM) by 15%, this works in lvl 30 and 40 wolves den

However, lvl 50 wolves den has Def and MDef replaced by morale and using protect does not increase morale

I could get some friends together to test it, but as it stands im fairly sure that the only use protect has is a buffer so the enemy paladin can't instantly glory slash your stoneskin off, thats about it

I've never actually questioned it though to be honest, so i might do some mythbusting when i have 8 people online

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Originally Posted by CeveArthu

Protect increases your def (and Mdef if WHM) by 15%, this works in lvl 30 and 40 wolves den

However, lvl 50 wolves den has Def and MDef replaced by morale and using protect does not increase morale

I could get some friends together to test it, but as it stands im fairly sure that the only use protect has is a buffer so the enemy paladin can't instantly glory slash your stoneskin off, thats about it

I've never actually questioned it though to be honest, so i might do some mythbusting when i have 8 people online

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I've heard this as well but since Morale is ineffective in Frontlines, I'd say it's a safe bet that Protect does in fact work as intended for Frontlines.

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Originally Posted by Rydia13

I've heard this as well but since Morale is ineffective in Frontlines, I'd say it's a safe bet that Protect does in fact work as intended for Frontlines.

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Oh i know protect works in frontlines, all you need to do is look at your Def/Mdef on the character sheet, then cast protect and watch it go up

I'm just talking about the Wolves den comment and that ive never questioned the fact that protect doesnt work in lvl 50 wolves den

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Originally Posted by CeveArthu

Protect increases your def (and Mdef if WHM) by 15%, this works in lvl 30 and 40 wolves den

However, lvl 50 wolves den has Def and MDef replaced by morale and using protect does not increase morale

I could get some friends together to test it, but as it stands im fairly sure that the only use protect has is a buffer so the enemy paladin can't instantly glory slash your stoneskin off, thats about it

I've never actually questioned it though to be honest, so i might do some mythbusting when i have 8 people online

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You should test before making claims like this.Its better to know what you're saying is true, when you're saying something is true.

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Originally Posted by Logo

You should test before making claims like this.Its better to know what you're saying is true, when you're saying something is true.

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It's logical that if there is no Def/Mdef, then there is no function of protect, so while i haven't tested it, no one has said otherwise until today

That's my train of thought anyway, I still use protect anyway so i don't have my stoneskin glory slashed instantly, but thats all i use it for

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Originally Posted by CeveArthu

That's my train of thought anyway, I still use protect anyway so i don't have my stoneskin glory slashed instantly, but thats all i use it for

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I play as Paladin in the Wolf Den. Defensive values does work in all PvP environment, it function exactly same way as in PvE. It is a delusion that it doesnt work in lvl50 WD for you because it is either:

1. You have morale and your taget doesnt have morale
2. Shell is not in game to make you think MDF doesnt work.