Lets have proper feedback on Frontlines and PVP in general

after playing extensively on Frontlines, I feel the system in place is really good. However, some tweaks here and there will make it awesome. So I would like to see what do you think as a player about Frontlines tweaks that will make it even more successful. for me I have the following:


Frontlines :

1- Losing GC points if you get KOd in Battle: this will bring in even more tactics in frontlines, for example sending teams to attack with the objective of killing players to reduce their numbers , while at same time sending another team to capture outposts.

2- more points in KOing players. right now it has no meaning to kill people at all. its not even close to anything. if we get more points per kill , even just slightly, it will make frontlines more tactical.



Wolves Den:

each match should consist of 3-5 rounds. increase amount of pvp exp more then frontlines so that people have objective on why they would do it. waiting 30min for 1min match is completely off putting. 5 rounds with more EXP will justify it.

The frontline is fun, i thought that some random objectives poping on the map or some random "secretsobjectives" like "take this camp" or "old X camps" giving some point boost would give the whole thing more fun.

I'm having more fun than I should doing Frontlines. I accidentally maxed my soldiery for the week doing it lawls~

They need to allow you to replenish ranks before the match begins. Being down 4 members for even 1 minute at the start can ruin you because then it becomes unorganized.

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Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion

They need to allow you to replenish ranks before the match begins. Being down 4 members for even 1 minute at the start can ruin you because then it becomes unorganized.

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this one specifically will be fixed next week based on their notice. auto replenish ranks immediately once get in.

I love Frontlines and want more PvP content like this.

I kind of hope they add specific on-screen objectives during the duration of the fight that, if achieved, would give a bonus in points.

Having not experienced pvp yet in FF14 here are a few of my thoughts after a few rounds...

* Ultimately, I had fun. For what it was, I felt like each round lasted just the right amount of time (not too fast, not too long +++).
* Teamwork and cooperation lead to success. Communication amongst your duty-peers is important to winning (good +++).
* I'm not sure if this was intended, but in one case, one alliance group had no healers and mine had 3. I volunteered to "group" with the healerless group, but as a scholar, my healing potential is shorted because my pet obviously isn't going to heal members of the other "party" (is there a way to switch alliance groups around???).

Things I would like to see....
* Some form of persistence. We have character pvp levels and wolf marks. But some sort of persistence that has larger, over-reaching impacts across our communities. I don't know what that would be since I imagine duty is cross-server.
* Some randomness in the map. Something to keep each match fresh and interesting.
* Continued investment in pvp features/functionality in general. I actually had fun and the game mechanics lend to pvp well. Some deeper pvp mechanics would be awesome. I would hate for it to just be some sort of "side" thing.

Currently my biggest peeve has simply been all the false starts. I noticed this with CT as well, and I wouldn't know how SE could solve the problem. Obviously, people who are signed up for a duty they really don't want to participate in.... how do you fix that problem? Right now, that part of the user-experience is a bit ugly as you "commence" multiple times over the course of 5-10 minutes before everyone finally agrees to show up.

PvP in general:

- let us save a skill set for different jobs so we don't have to re-adjust PvP points whenever we choose to go on another job.

Wolves' Den (WD):

- I totally agree with more matches. Instead of 1, let us fight 3 times. Matches aren't that long in WD anyways.
- More PvP gear sets (but this is something for gear design in general)

Frontlines (FL):

- Make it so that /psort works here too (the command to automatically adjust the party lineup)
- Morale now is a wasted stat. Can we expect it to have some influence or maybe change to another useful stat for FL? I'm a bit surprised that we get currency to get PvP gear, yet this gear has no advantage when doing PvP which FL is.

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Originally Posted by abzoluut

PvP in general:

- let us save a skill set for different jobs so we don't have to re-adjust PvP points whenever we choose to go on another job.

Wolves' Den (WD):

- I totally agree with more matches. Instead of 1, let us fight 3 times. Matches aren't that long in WD anyways.
- More PvP gear sets (but this is something for gear design in general)

Frontlines (FL):

- Make it so that /psort works here too (the command to automatically adjust the party lineup)
- Morale now is a wasted stat. Can we expect it to have some influence or maybe change to another useful stat for FL? I'm a bit surprised that we get currency to get PvP gear, yet this gear has not advantage when doing PvP which FL is.

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I agree with you except on Morale stat. if its something temporary SE is doing to get more people interested in Frontlines, I am all for waiting until future patch where they bring morale back. If the intention is to keep PvP gear usable only in Wolves Den, then I really think they should just change it to normal gear, with more focus on determination and damage stats.