WAR: ACC &Parry vs DET.

Good day all,
So I'm looking for some advice pertaining to the substats listed in the subject. I'm gearing my tank based on a BiS list I found online, and so far I like the results. My issue is, I've noticed that as I build accuracy and parry, I lose Det. I guess my real question is, what is a safe/preferable determination stat for a warrior to have? I know Acc. Cap is most important, and I like having lots of parry, but I don't want to be too low on det either.

The current numbers are stating that every 3.3 Det is equal to 1 Strength when it comes to how hard you hit, I believe. If you're looking to be a Tanky Tank, Det isn't vitally important unless you're not doing enough damage to hold threat against your party members.

If you're maximizing survival: Vit > Str > Parry > Det

If you're looking to deal a little extra damage: Vit > Str > Crit/Det > Parry

If you want to sacrifice mitigation for maximum damage: Str > Vit > Crit/Det > Parry

As for a precise amount of Det you want, there's no right answer for that. Just sacrifice whatever amount of Parry you're comfortable with losing for it if you want it higher.

Now that you put it like that, I don't really have too much trouble keeping hate. Occasionally on like a massive brayflox pull there will be a stray add that I can grab back with no issue. And since yeah I do prefer a Tanky tank I guess I'll just stay with my Parry build and leave my dps stats to my monk lol.

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Originally Posted by Donjo

If you're looking to deal a little extra damage: Vit > Str > Crit/Det > Parry

If you want to sacrifice mitigation for maximum damage: Str > Vit > Crit/Det > Parry

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The mitigation of the latter spec is actually better than the former, although not by much. Vit is not mitigation, just HP.

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Originally Posted by Rbstr

The mitigation of the latter spec is actually better than the former, although not by much. Vit is not mitigation, just HP.

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Maximizing Strength will increase the percentage of damage reduced by a block or parry by 1, perhaps 2%. Given that this is for a Warrior, it only applies when an attack is actually parried, which a max strength build minimizes the chance of. Thus, I'd argue that overall mitigation is actually reduced if Str is pursued above all else.

Im Warrior and just do all DPS gear. Its getting to the point where you basically have enough health to be fine as long as your healers and your cooldown use is on point for every fight, except maybe main tank T9, but I play through it with all DPS gear anyways and still live through Favors. Maybe not Ravensbeaks though. Anyways parry doesnt really seem to important with a good group. Just have it on stuff where it happens to be included in my opinion.

I am a PLD but looking at the stats of Bravura Animus compared with Curtana+Holy Shield Animus:

Bravura has the same main stats (42 VIT and 37 STR) but 40 parry and 28 Skill Speed (68 points) while
Curtana+Shield have same main stats plus 32 Parry, 29 Accuracy and 8 Skill Speed (69 points)

Seeing that the Weathered Noct and Noct and High Allagan gear is common for both jobs, I observe that Bravura Atma and Animus give Parry and Skill Speed while the Curtana+Shield give Accuracy and Parry and a bit of Skill Speed.

Might it be that Parry and Skill Speed are more convenient for the WAR while Accuracy and Parry are more convenient for the PLD, with a bit of Skill Speed?

What I imply is that the stats for the Atma and Animus weapons probably have been established looking for a good balanced performance for both jobs, so going completely away from that initial stats may not be the ideal option. I don't know, it's just a thought.

A tiny bit better for WAR the upgrade, they get +7 secondary stat points while PLD has only+6 points (with the advantage of having 2 separate gears you don't have to wear necessarily together.)

Thanks for that, I really only stack accuracy to meet the cap for the current content I'm in. Seeing as to how I'm at Coil 1 turn 5 my accuracy cap is about 489, and I'm sitting at 492. The issue I'm facing is as I build toward the 577 parry my BiS list reflects, I lose determination. I'm also still in the process of obtaining the gear, and I've swapped out some pieces for their seemingly similar, higher iLvl counter parts.

Eg: warriors curiass--> weathered noct loria
Heros ring of fending --> weathered noct ring
Warriors Breeches --> weathered noct(pants)[-24 determination +14 parry]

Honestly it doesn't really matter. Get whatever gives you the most HP.

I solo tank all of ScoB and I wear full crit/det gear while retaining accuracy cap, I did just over 200 Dps on most fights prior to getting my high allagan axe. It's just my personal preference to make fights shorter or help burst adds, plus parry scales extremely poorly; I'd rather deal 50 extra dps than take 2% less damage.

But all in all, there's honestly not that big a difference between full parry and not when it comes to mitigation, You can find out more information on Dancing Mad about parry scaling I believe.


tldr; wear whatever gives you more health, don't focus parry, your damage actually does matter.

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Originally Posted by Valkoria

Honestly it doesn\\'t really matter. Get whatever gives you the most HP.

I solo tank all of ScoB and I wear full crit/det gear while retaining accuracy cap, I did just over 200 Dps on most fights prior to getting my high allagan axe. It\\'s just my personal preference to make fights shorter or help burst adds, plus parry scales extremely poorly; I\\'d rather deal 50 extra dps than take 2% less damage.



tldr; wear whatever gives you more health, don\\'t focus parry, your damage actually does matter.

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Det/crit gear vs parry gear (same dmg rating and str) is nowhere close to 50dps. :p

Secondaries are secondaries and they all scale poorly.

Server are serious question how are you handling the 8 stacks solo tanking t6? I\\'ve only tried it once and it didn\\'t go well. It\\'s the only turn that doesn\\'t seem solo tank able.