Was in Titan Extreme today and a healer went down, so being the off tank I used cover on the main tank to help spread out the damage while the resurrected healer recovered. I didn't realize in the hectic battle at first, but I had a stack of Mountain Buster on me. Huh? I know I didn't get hit by it. Meanwhile the main tank was able to tank all the way to post heart phase without a tank swap, because my mountain buster stack meant he didn't get his.
Not only does this mean less damage for the healers to heal on the main tank, but it simplifies the tank swaps if it's the same tank all the way until gaolers are dead.
I later confirmed it works like this by joining duty finder and testing.
Now I'm curious where else it works like this...
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06-17-2014, 11:08 AMCrushbone-HammerfistSo, let's talk about Cover (or, a cool thing about Titan Extreme)
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06-17-2014, 11:26 AMDano
when in cover you take all the damage or debuffs intended for the person you are covering. Now there are different types of debuffs, some debuff will apply if you take damage from the skill used by the boss (ie: death sentence, raven's beak, ifrit EX's fire breath...etc), some debuffs cannot be avoided and will apply regardless (ie: Titan's mountain buster). Those that do damage and apply the debuff can be negated by using hollow ground or from extremely good shielding/stoneskinning.
by the way, your mitigation skills doesn't reduce incoming damage from cover, the damage you take will be the damage that'll be taken by the person it is intended for as is.
Cover is not applicable for AoE damage, BUT i have successfully covered a person from getting hit by "1000million ton swing" used by the cyclops boss in Halatali HM.
I wish cover was on a lower cooldown though. -
06-17-2014, 12:32 PMCrushbone-Hammerfist
The skill reads that it only covers physical damage though, so if a boss deals magic damage it won't work.
I'm not online to try but I'm curious if it works on Ultimas tank swap mechanic.. The cover paladin would first need to be able to absorb the debuff, and it'd have to cause it to fall of the main tank before it got reapplied.. I will try tomorrow. -
06-17-2014, 03:07 PMCrimson-Falcon
the only point i see to use cover is wen you lose aggro
and if you lose aggro you cant call yourself a tank so no point -
06-17-2014, 03:11 PMJubez187Well IDK about you but I've never seen aggro tables work in PvP so I mean...Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
And also, what if someone goes down, no swiftcast, and chances are the healer will get canceled by AOE? You can cover them during the cast time. -
06-17-2014, 03:25 PMCrimson-Falconi dont know PVP and i dont care about itQuote:
Originally Posted by Jubez187
also talking about cover when healer spell might get cancelled
you should know that cover wont work if the healer is more than 5 yalms away from you
and no healer will risk going near tank regardless of using cover or not
pointless skill is pointless just like MNK one Ilm punch
maybe with longer range it will have some use but still not the decent way
also if using cover when aoe coming means taking double damage and risking death to yourself -
06-17-2014, 03:27 PMNaytoTbh Paladin's shitty flash can't keep hate against flare crits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
And you have no answer for medica II spammers.
Cover is your option while you get your flat hate of flash to build up from a hard crit.
Sound more like a bad paladin yourself that holds people back.
Don't compare cover to something as narrow as one-ilm punch... that's laughable. You wanna compare something to one-ilm punch, try holmgang.
Anyways, on-topic for the thread:
Seems cover follows this rule: If you can prompt a block/parry for the attack (you can block/parry a mountain buster despite it being 'magic attack) you can cover it. Maybe even if it's AoE (mountain buster is also AoE). -
06-17-2014, 03:32 PMMinakoUm, what? If I aggro something or for whatever reason pull hate, the first thing you should do is run to the tank. Why? Because if they have to chase you down because you're running around, they won't get hate back. Oh, they provoked and then you casted a cure? You negated that provoke. Simple solution, bring the mob to the tank, they halone/BB and no issues. How do I know this? Because I main a SCH and sub WHM as a pair with a tank. And sometimes, if I nuke, bane gets me hate (assuming on SCH). I prefer contributing damage rather than standing there with my thumb up my butt sitting on full mp. So, yeah, if you aren't bringing mobs to the tank, you need to reconsider how you play as a healer and try helping your tank rather than making them work harder because you don't feel like taking a few steps forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
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06-17-2014, 03:53 PMJubez187You just made a complete spectacle of yourself, you know that right? You're ignorant and uneducated when it comes to this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
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06-17-2014, 04:07 PMDanothis is wrong on so many levels, you do know there are mechanics in the game that negates the hate table right? like Goblin snipers and gliders in brayflox or turn 7 Lamia Archers, if someone is taking too much damage, a cover can be a life saver before the tank grab back hate or kill the add. It certainly isn't the useless skill you make it out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon