End the Debate? Hardcore and Regular Servers

SE,

If you feel the need to be torn between one opinion or the other, why not just create Hardcore servers with specific rewards (Cosmetics, titles, mounts etc) to people who put their nose to the grind in the way that 60 HR a week gamers do.

Make regular servers for casuals. If you want to have those specific individuals who complained (which to be honest I saw few of in comparison to the complaints right now which alone should say something) they will go to the Hardcore servers, with their Hardcore friends.

Also put flags on Coil Items / Relics etc from Regular servers to make them inert paper weights on Hardcore Servers.

This is a very simple solution that even Free Shard managers utilize.

This would allow you to say to Hardcore Players that eventually wine about content being too hard or grindy:

Okay go to a Regular server, 18 dollars please.

And to the Casuals that complain/wine about no challenges

Okay go to a Hardcore server, 18 dollars please.

End of debate forever.

I'm sorry but could you imagine the amount of hardcore elitist egos running around 1 server wow that would be just scary

We already have this.

In case you're not familiar with MMOs:

New content is hardcore
old is casual

there. No need for server separations. Go get those world firsts and find a fc to gloat about it.

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Originally Posted by Seif

We already have this.

In case you're not familiar with MMOs:

New content is hardcore
old is casual

there. No need for server separations. Go get those world firsts and find a fc to gloat about it.

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Casuals tend to get upset from being barred from content.

Hardcores tend to get upset seeing Casuals in their content.

This means the two types of players cannot get along and shouldn't be forced to be in eachother's midst, ergo, you separate them. But I actually find this to be more of a fun social experiment then anything.

You see, I am betting top dollar in the face of the choice, the "Hardcore" gamer will put his behind on the Regular server, and he'll stop coming to the forums out of shame. Whereas those who are truly out for a challenge will be content in their challenging land with challenger friends.

I just got dumber

If it would be server based, there would be one server with 10.000 people on it and the rest of the two million subsribers would live on the other one.

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

If it would be server based, there would be one server with 10.000 people on it and the rest of the two million subsribers would live on the other one.

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Exactly,

Thus ending the debate. SE would clearly see what it needs to do. Quietly merge the servers back, and never ever bother listening to any person who comes on here and says.

"T9 was too easy, I beat it already!!!! I already got my loot!!!"

"Relic was too easy I already got it!"

"I have to unsubscribe"

Meanwhile that same individual is in reality probably not even fully geared out of T9, probably not Zenith on every Job Class they play and probably not going to be. They just want something specifically to complain about in the wake of people just playing and enjoying their game.

The "Hardcore" server would either be almost empty or, it would be full of the same kind of people that start PFs with "WEEKLY CLEAR!! ONLY JOIN IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!" and then proceed to wipe non stop until the group disbands....

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

The "Hardcore" server would either be almost empty or, it would be full of the same kind of people that start PFs with "WEEKLY CLEAR!! ONLY JOIN IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!" and then proceed to wipe non stop until the group disbands....

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Right.

It's all a sad joke. An illusion woven by the interweb. FFXIV was just fine the way it was in the system they originally thought of, which is clear due to the amount of subscriptions they boast about.

Why they decided to make an abject paradigm shift into Tanaka style content is beyond me but they need to either make it so that the average player can enjoy all content of the game, while the Hardcore player is justly rewarded for their greater time spent (the Tank Mount was a good example and small gesture that really meant a lot to tanks that faced higher content consistently).

Or they need to just separate the kids who can't play nice with one another and end this forever..

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

The "Hardcore" server would be empty

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Sorry for mincing your words a little, but this.

As much as any "Hardcore" would hate to admit it, this game needs casual players to sustain it.

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Originally Posted by SionDurant

Why they decided to make an abject paradigm shift into Tanaka style content is beyond me but they need to either make it so that the average player can enjoy all content of the game, while the Hardcore player is justly rewarded for their greater time spent (the Tank Mount was a good example and small gesture that really meant a lot to tanks that faced higher content consistently).

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For the same reason, as much as "casuals" hate to admit it, this game also needs the hardcore players to sustain it and therefore content to also keep them playing.