Tank End Game

So now I'm wondering if I shuold reroll as a warrior. what I so far understand Warrior has, more dmg (for holding aggro) MUCH more hp, sel heals that doesen't comsume hp, they are better paried with Whie Mages (MY friend is rolling white mage so..) Due to the fact whitemages strong heals and Warrior massive amount of hp.
They can hold aggro better of larger parties but are somewhat slighty worse at single target. They also have some lockdowns.
Paladins got the shield which blocks incoming dmg (physical) Better with the Scholars, they have a hughe amount of defensive buffs in thier arsenal, as earlier said good on tanking single targets, THey have a self Esuna wich removes some lockdown on themselves. THey can be used to heal another party member if the main healer is to busy, they can also heal themselves but ic consumes mana which is resored by your TP ability.

PAladin's are more easy I've heard but think of the fact that I'm a really good tank with Paladin and a really good tank with warrior so in the end the skill cap isn't in this equation. But it's always fun to play the harder roll. (Isn't that why most ppl play druid?;)

So in the end I'm at a passage here and dunno wich way to walk so I've got some Qs for ya,

Which class is more needed?
Which class is preferable?
Which class is least played?
Warrior or Paladin?
Think about END gmae!

P.S I prob got a tons of spelling misstakes but seriously this isn't English leasson and I think everyone is bright enough to understand what I want from this post so, I'll hope you speak up cause I care for every Tank-related statement =)

The tank classes are currently very well balanced. Each one has it's situations where it might be a little more useful than the other, but both can do all the content as MT or OT. The general idea is if the fight has more consistent dmg then Paladins shine but if the fight has spike dmg periods Warriors shine. Both just as useful than the other. Really depends on your group makeup how you wanna go. Play whichever one is most fun for you.

which class is more needed ? None. They are both good and every good group (aka group that can handle mechanics) have both or can have both (some prefer double pld for some obscure reasons)

Which class is preferable ? The one you'll enjoy to play, obviously. Which also answers your 4th question

Which class is less played ? Was WAR in 2.0. Way less accurate to say that since 2.1

Side note : don't say you're a "really good" paladin or warrior when you are lv 30 on one and 5 on the other ^^ Wait for the difficult content to come, as this is no WoW.

Also, WARs may have more damage, but they don't have more aggro than plds. On solo target they are equal. Also, saying that WARs have more hp (thus making better tanks because more survivability) is only true until pld lv 40, as you'll get a perma-20% damage reduction which totally nullifies the advantage of more hp. Also, this difference makes warriors more difficult to heal as they need more heal than paladin to get on top.

On the same side, your statement about healers have to be reverted :p WHM are PLD's best friends, and scholars love warriors (lustrate heals for a good ammount on warriors). But in the end, it's mostly a matter of habits.

Other (slight) thing : pld's heals are totally worthless, better take stoneskin (lv34 WHM) and forget about the heal.

Was talking about this last night... PLD in XIV is not PLD from XI.... In XI paladins got Cure II, and maybe more I think, but they could actually heal themselves for a reasonable amount in a pinch, however in XIV your Cure will only hit for about 250.... Out of 6k+ hp 250 isn't even marginal... That said, the differences in a nutshell for me are PLD is a mitigation tank while WAR is a sponge. WAR has the HP to soak up dmg whereas a PLD wants to minimize the dmg instead of soak it. IMO though WAR's have the upper hand in tanking multiples(Overpower), and PLD has the upper hand when tanking single target in terms of enmity generation. But in reality as already mentioned tanks currently are in a pretty good place in XIV... Pretty close all in, other than the simple fact that overpower is overpowered <- XD

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Enmity generation isn't even an issue anymore.

The two tanks have the same effective HP, and nearly the same effective healing received. There's no secret sauce synergy between one healer and one tank or the other healer and the other tank. Healers do the same things with (nearly) the same effects for pretty much every situation except for Hallowed Ground vs. Holmgang.

They're balanced. They've both viable, capable, in demand, useful, etc. for everything. Pick the one you like and don't stress.

Which class is more needed?
Both class are needed, in 4 man content PLD and WAR are interchangeable. In 8 man content most group will want 1 of each to provide their respective debuff and also so that they won't get hit by the Limit Break penalty. Some group may want Double PLD for Hallowed Ground if they are newer to that content.

Which class is preferable?
Like I said both classes are interchangeable, and work equally as well. PLD negates more damage due to Shield Oath, but WAR has more HP and is healed for more due to defiance. PLD also has a few more cooldowns then WAR, but WAR gets Inner beast which is more or less a mini heal + defense cooldown in one, very useful. WAR are also alot better at AOE tanking, Steel Cyclone and Overpower is amazing for AOE hate.

Which class is least played?
Before the WAR buff, everyone was a PLD. With the buff, I have been seeing alot of people leveling WAR. In endgame however they are pretty equal.


Warrior or Paladin?
Just play the one you enjoy more, I have both PLD and WAR at ilevel 90 and use them both. WAR is a little more fun though cause they have more combos, for PLD you will be just spamming Rage of Halone combo 90% of the time. If you are in a raid group you might also want to see what class is the other Tank, if he is a WAR, you be the PLD and vice versa.

Level both and have both equally geared.

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Also, WARs may have more damage, but they don't have more aggro than plds. Due to things like overpower and steel cyclone, this is not true. esp for groups. flash does nowhere near the aggro of either of these. On solo target they are equal. Also, saying that WARs have more hp (thus making better tanks because more survivability) is only true until pld lv 40, as you'll get a perma-20% damage reduction which totally nullifies the advantage of more hp. Also, this difference makes warriors more difficult to heal as they need more heal than paladin to get on top.Defiance also gives a healing boost to account for the extra hp

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i pretty much never do this, but see above. some information that I needed to correct.