Honestly what is the harm? Party re-invite

OP deleted because it's old news.

They do need to fix it for DCs no doubt, other than that I don't have a problem with it.

They just don't want the FF XI shit all over again constantly swapping people out, X person dies you just swap someone else in guess SE did not like that.

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Originally Posted by Dynamis

I don't remember that being a huge issue in ffxi other than people trying to beat Absolute Virtue. And even then. it didn't work.

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It wasn't but i have seen a LS win cause they rotated 6 different tanks on Khimera, they would have lost if not for the tank also people abusing the hate reset stuff by logging out then back in.

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Originally Posted by Firon

They just don't want the FF XI shit all over again constantly swapping people out, X person dies you just swap someone else in guess SE did not like that.

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And they couldn't come up with something better? like perhaps the game memorizes who was part of the party that initiated the battle and allows that group for re-invites only.

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Originally Posted by Dynamis

To me, that is ingenuity and they should be rewarded for their hard work. They didn't cheat. They worked around the system.

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And SE fixed that "Work around" So people might actually have to use that ingenuity within the one party format. I'm sorry but being switched into a party for a SATA WS and then booted out was lame.

What you may call ingenuity, SE may very well call exploit. And really, SE's opinion is the only one that matters in cases like that. Their game, their call.

thats fixed having isntances zone with a max of X number of ppl in.

U cant zone while a battle is already happening.

To avoid death ppl to log off and another 1 take his place.

Bcnms 4 example

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Originally Posted by Dynamis

Swapping party members in ffxi was a result of cooperation between players and ingenuity which is what SE says they are trying to promote in ffxiv.

It's not exploiting the system if you swap party members, it's working around the system to attain a common goal.

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^ i totally second this.

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

thats fixed having isntances zone with a max of X number of ppl in.

U cant zone while a battle is already happening.

To avoid death ppl to log off and another 1 take his place.

Bcnms 4 example

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BCNM's are a terrible example because you were ejected if you disconected. I'm also a strong supporter of Open world NM's having everything instanced makes for a very barren world outside of those instances. While I'm not oposed to them all being this way I still want to see open world dungeons and "Raid areas" I want to be able to walk into any cave I want by myself without the game shouting at me that I don't have enough members to enter.

You can't rejoin your party after a DC for multiple reasons.

-You could "Hire" merc groups to do a fight for you and join last minute to just get the loot.
-Gaining SP when you yourself did not fight "I imagine it would be a massive pain to somehow split the SP gain into a new formula "Solution could be you get 0 credit for the fight, but that may have to extend to the entire party...loot included."
-Swapping pt members "Lame to the max, NM's will be designed around not needing to swap party members"
-Leaving party to reset your hate via login/out "There is no way for the server to track your characters enmity after it logs"

I think the last one would be the largest issue of all.