What is 30 mind for a healer ?

Got this love/hate relationship with my smn/sch. I poured my points in INT for SMN.

What does 30 points of mind represent for a sch? I'm not geared much yet (only DL cowl) but I feel my heals are low. I understand gear is a big portion of power, but what about those 30 mind points ?

trying to decide if I should roll whm or blm to compensate that lack of stats.

Furthermore, on the topic of love/hate, I'm not too hot for the shields (never liked disc priests in wow, used to be resto shaman, meaning reactionary like whm) but I absolutely adore leaving things to my fairy and DPS ... BUT I sorely missed my HoT (riptide anyone?)

UGH smn/sch feelings are so mitigated ... drives me nuts

I would like to know this as well. I put all of mine into mind. I'd just like to know how much less damage I'd be doing if I decided to play some and not reallocate my points.

I would respec if you aren't planning to play SMN - 30 MND can make a pretty big difference with your healing output as SCH.

Also it's important to understand that, outside of Physick, SCHs heal output is inherently lower than the WHM heals. Where SCH makes up for it is the shield that comes with Adlo and Succor heals.

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I would respec if you aren't planning to play SMN - 30 MND can make a pretty big difference with your healing output as SCH.

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I'm playing SMN as my main atm, but could fulltime BLM as it's already 50. Just not sure of how much it's hurting my heals.

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Also it's important to understand that, outside of Physick, SCHs heal output is inherently lower than the WHM heals. Where SCH makes up for it is the shield that comes with Adlo and Succor heals.

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Full aware of that, and probably what drives me nuts too lol. If it was not for the fairy, I would have jumped ship to WHM already. That's the core of the problem, due to mechanics of the SCH, the heals are already lower, so 30 less mind ... ugh.

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Originally Posted by Taerra

Full aware of that, and probably what drives me nuts too lol. If it was not for the fairy, I would have jumped ship to WHM already. That's the core of the problem, due to mechanics of the SCH, the heals are already lower, so 30 less mind ... ugh.

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Try not to confuse "Lower Heals" with "Not as good at healing". SCH and WHM are more than comparable in all situations. In endgame dungeons, they're at their best when they pair up (1 of each) because they complement each other very well. A solo heal SCH is just as capable as a solo heal WHM in 4-man dungeons.

It might help to consider the 'shield' as a heal as well, because it effectively reduces the damage they are dealt. It's more of a proacative heal compared to WHM's reactive heals. That said, the SCH Adlo can potentially heal much more than a WHM heal, especially if it crits.

Also keep in mind that SCH can do pretty good DPS too when they aren't spamming heals by using Cleric Stance.

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Try not to confuse "Lower Heals" with "Not as good at healing". SCH and WHM are more than comparable in all situations. In endgame dungeons, they're at their best when they pair up (1 of each) because they complement each other very well. A solo heal SCH is just as capable as a solo heal WHM in 4-man dungeons.

It might help to consider the 'shield' as a heal as well, because it effectively reduces the damage they are dealt...

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Again, full aware of that. I understand the mechanic of the prevention shield vs raw healing throughput. I can heal just fine at the moment on SCH, the core issue is that I'm naturally 30 points of mind short, not a debate of whm vs sch. If I would switch whm, it's not inherently because sch has lower throughput barring the shield and fairy, it's because I'm at a disadvantage stat wise due to SMN attributes.

30 VIT = 450 HP, this is about a 10% boost assuming you're in ilv50 gear (it gets lower as your gear gets better)
so I'm going to say that 30 Mnd is probably about a 10% boost to healing.

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30 VIT = 450 HP, this is about a 10% boost assuming you're in ilv50 gear (it gets lower as your gear gets better)
so I'm going to say that 30 Mnd is probably about a 10% boost to healing.

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If your reasoning is accurate, That's a pretty big disadvantage for my sch ...

well in Ilv70 it becomes about an 8% boost, and closer to 5% in Ilv90 so the better geared you are, the less those 30 points matter.

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Originally Posted by Teleniel

well in Ilv70 it becomes about an 8% boost, and closer to 5% in Ilv90 so the better geared you are, the less those 30 points matter.

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No.

Every 1 MND increases your Cure I about 1 HP (and Cure II a little over 2 HP). MND scales up with weapon damage, and so the better your weapon, the more HP cured that MND gives.

The higher item level your armor is, the less that 30 MND matters.