#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by Aravell

You're gonna have to yell louder that the 'Give compensation for DDoS' crowd and the 'DT story sucks' crowd.

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It would be physically impossible to completely flood it, unless people start using some actual spam bots which I would strongly recommend against... But if there was enough for it to be visible amongst all the Japanese chatters, and other complaints maybe Healers could for the first time in years get the tiniest bit of attention from the dev team.

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Originally Posted by LynxDubh

I used to use Collective Unconscious on heavy dungeon pulls in HW/SB. The regen stacked with the others and you could use Time Dilation and Celestial Opposition to really get some hefty HoT numbers in Diurnal, then go into Gravity spam. It's always kinda been a skill you just flash to get the benefits, even way back then.

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Collective Unconscious in it's original form until the incredible buff AST got in 3.4 was a very weak channeled action relative to the throughput of simply casting e.g. Helios over and over. It was AST's version of both Sacred Soil and Asylum, depending on your sect, with the caveat that you had to maintain it by not moving at all.

The only time I found it useful until 3.4 (where the effects both existed and you were able to 'flash' it like so many actions from DNC to PLD) was when I was out of MP or when the boss was not attackable so my GCD economy didn't matter, with the one notable exception during Sephirot Extreme's knock-up from the Storm of Words to avoid his raid wipe: at the time, getting launched did not interrupt channelled effects so AST could apply Collective's regen though this mechanic when the party was otherwise unable to act. They later patched this, probably in 3.4, not that they ever used a similar mechanic in a tough boss to heal ever again.

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Originally Posted by Post

Collective Unconscious in it's original form until the incredible buff AST got in 3.4 was a very weak channeled action relative to the throughput of simply casting e.g. Helios over and over. It was AST's version of both Sacred Soil and Asylum, depending on your sect, with the caveat that you had to maintain it by not moving at all.

The only time I found it useful until 3.4 (where the effects both existed and you were able to 'flash' it like so many actions from DNC to PLD) was when I was out of MP or when the boss was not attackable so my GCD economy didn't matter, with the one notable exception during Sephirot Extreme's knock-up from the Storm of Words to avoid his raid wipe: at the time, getting launched did not interrupt channelled effects so AST could apply Collective's regen though this mechanic when the party was otherwise unable to act. They later patched this, probably in 3.4, not that they ever used a similar mechanic in a tough boss to heal ever again.

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Yeah I joined on patch 3.2, so I only had to deal with original CU for a couple of patches before its buff.

But gosh I miss stances in dungeons too. I loved swapping to Nocturnal after a pull, swiftcasting Stoneskin, applying Aspected Benefic, and then swapping back to Diurnal for the pull proper. All while keeping up the cards, it was a fun time for dungeon AST.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

It would be physically impossible to completely flood it, unless people start using some actual spam bots which I would strongly recommend against... But if there was enough for it to be visible amongst all the Japanese chatters, and other complaints maybe Healers could for the first time in years get the tiniest bit of attention from the dev team.

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or at the very least... an answer.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

You know what that person is right

We should treat the healer role with the same disdain as the developers do

Then when the entire game comes crashing down because they enforce healers in everything but never make them good to play so nobody plays them then the uncaring DPS mains and single brain cell WAR mains can finally realise that you can make healers redundant but you don’t get your roulette bonus unless a healer pops your queue

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There is nothing worse than feeling like healers are as needed as trainer wheels on a motorbike. When we understandably complained about it, we got an insane amount of trolling from damage dealers and tanks.

The amount of disrespect shown in this thread and Youtube toward healers strengthened my resolve to not heal in roulettes. Originally, I was going to participate only until 01/01/25.

Now, I'm not budging an inch until all our concerns are addressed by Yoshi P. I'm not going to accept corporate-speak, vague promises, or tone-deaf responses. I want the issues addressed.

No healer owes anyone a roulette bonus or a shorter wait time. Not me, not you, not any other healer. We are not the doormats of FFXIV.

If the Green River needs to flow for three years, so be it.

I have had plenty of healers in game not heal at all when they are supposed to. Like raid wides. Don't act like healer players are saints and go at DPS and Tanks like this. Healers may be dumbed down but clearly people still don't know what healing is and instead cast more glares. This strike is going no where if players who play the jobs can't even do basic functions as it is now.

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Originally Posted by Grumblecakes

I have had plenty of healers in game not heal at all when they are supposed to. Like raid wides. Don't act like healer players are saints and go at DPS and Tanks like this. Healers may be dumbed down but clearly people still don't know what healing is and instead cast more glares. This strike is going no where if players who play the jobs can't even do basic functions as it is now.

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Good. They (SE and players who cheers for their design trajectory) deserves all the flak.

I don't think anybody should be giving a 'surprise pikachu'-face when (a) Non-stupids are fed up to the point they either limit their exposure or swap role entirely; (b) A lot stupids are populating the role and making duties more miserable overall. What you've described is just one of the symptoms of 5-8 years (depending on where you draw the line) of designing the role around stupids.

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Originally Posted by Grumblecakes

I have had plenty of healers in game not heal at all when they are supposed to. Like raid wides. Don't act like healer players are saints and go at DPS and Tanks like this. Healers may be dumbed down but clearly people still don't know what healing is and instead cast more glares. This strike is going no where if players who play the jobs can't even do basic functions as it is now.

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And you never thought maybe these players are dps or tank mains doing the role because they don’t wanna wait for healers or try it out so they can see why people complain. I had in pf so many atrocious healer players not healing or doing passable dmg it’s kinda sad. Like people say there is no healer strike but I argue waiting 3 hours for shield healers on a Wednesday for the m4s weekly kill and only doing the fight for 1 hour and having mostly the healer fail, tells a good enough story for me.

Healer Strike: "We no longer enjoy healing in its current state, so we will no longer be joining duties on healer."

The Community: "This healer sucks! Must be one of those darn healer strikers! This is all their fault! They suck at healing and they want more healing? Ridiculous!"

Everytime.

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Originally Posted by Grumblecakes

I have had plenty of healers in game not heal at all when they are supposed to.

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I know! I've seen plenty of DPS in the game just not deal damage at all when they're supposed to because standing in the bad is easier than doing mechanics properly. And plenty of tanks in the game just not hold aggro at all when they're supposed to because it's easier to tank the floor than hitting a mitigation.

Like, seriously, there are bad players in every role. Why is it that only bad healers get blamed for everything?