Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

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Originally Posted by NiceNox

I believe that, right now, they believe that most of the negative feedback for Wuk Lamat are from the "loud minority" since they mostly ignore the forum and listen to content creators and twitter users. And since people on Twitter are quite positive towards Wuk Lamat, I believe that she will still play a major role up until or beyond the next expansion, acting as a new member of Scion and leaving Tural to Koana when she goes on adventure with the scion. Furthermore, since now "a threat to the world is a threat to Tural", we might see Wuk more often than we think.

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That's a scary thought and I hope it's not true. Listening to Twitter of all things...uuuh...*shivers*
This is like a death sentence to media.

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Originally Posted by Aniise

That's a scary thought and I hope it's not true. Listening to Twitter of all things...uuuh...*shivers*
This is like a death sentence to media.

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Given squares recent track record I wouldn‘t be surprised.
I always thought ff14 would be save from that with Yoshida though.
Either he was sleeping, overworked or doesn‘t care anymore.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

Given squares recent track record I wouldn‘t be surprised.
I always thought ff14 would be save from that with Yoshida though.
Either he was sleeping, overworked or doesn‘t care anymore.

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Considering he was leading development of FFXVI at the time DT was made, that is easy to see.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

Given squares recent track record I wouldn‘t be surprised.
I always thought ff14 would be save from that with Yoshida though.
Either he was sleeping, overworked or doesn‘t care anymore.

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He made it onto the board of directors, checked out to direct XVI, and is now in the early stages of directing another game. I doubt he cares much about XIV at this point beyond its cash cow status.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

I always thought ff14 would be save from that with Yoshida though.
Either he was sleeping, overworked or doesn‘t care anymore.

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Probably overworked, getting older, and has to be focused on too many things at once. CBU3 was more successful than they ever thought, and they had the chance to work on lot more stuff (XVI and 2 other ongoing projects I think ?), but it comes with the price of not being able to pay the same attention to every single project.
Of course I realize it's not a one-man job and there was, and still is, several people involved, but even then the observation is still the same.

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Originally Posted by Shaedhen

Probably overworked, getting older, and has to be focused on too many things at once. CBU3 was more successful than they ever thought, and they had the chance to work on lot more stuff (XVI and 2 other ongoing projects I think ?), but it comes with the price of not being able to pay the same attention to every single project.
Of course I realize it's not a one-man job and there was, and still is, several people involved, but even then the observation is still the same.

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I feel like Yoshida might have mentally checked out after the conclusion of 6.0 Endwalker. He did what he set out to do, he turned the sinking ship around, saved the legacy of Final Fantasy, kept the game growing, successful and wildly profitable for over a decade. That's incredible and anyone would be tired, as a creator. That said, if he doesn't have the energy or time to spare to maintain the quality of FFXIV, then I think he should step down and let someone else take over. I know that is basically blasphemy to say, but nothing lasts forever and sometimes we have to move on, even if it's heartbreaking.

Leaving FFXIV to others sounds like a scary thought. With the amount of cash it makes, FFXIV is going to be the pie everybody wants a cut. We might see more mess up and unorganized Expansion with even more monetization and out of touch decisions.

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Originally Posted by Tethan

Actually r/ffxiv has become uncharacteristically critical, same with r/ffxivdiscussion. r/ShitpostXIV is where you want to go, they love strawmanning any complaints over there, which is shame as dunking on DT has some truly great shitpost potential, but they care more about whiteknighting the game than posting anything actually fun.

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I mean not really as far as I have seen.
Even the Shitpost has quite a number of memes about the story and criticism is just used to… well shitpost.
There is quite a number of people also criticizing.
But the shitpost sub is not good to get an overview of opinions.

On the r/ffivx there are a quit a number of people implying they were defending the game before vehemently. And there was actually lots of downvoting on healerstrike posts and job critique.
It did such a 180 that they are downvoting the few opinions approving of the story.

DT actually has managed to unite the official forum of English and Japanese and both Reddit subs
That’s quite the accomplishment tbh.
I haven’t looked into content creator feedback yet because I hate twitch but let’s see.

I don't know how anyone can say it's the vocal minority with a straight face.

DT is unanimously criticized on each FFXIV reddit and across each regions forums. The main sub is notorious for silencing any criticism immediately, but that's not happening anymore.
DT currently is the lowest rated expansion of FFXIV (including ARR) on both Steam and Metacritic. The Metacritic score is even going down over time as more and more people finish.
The only place I've seen with an overwhelmingly positive response to DT is Twitter, but how much of it is because the people with larger followings are controlling the narrative there? Twitter is very unfriendly to small accounts, whereas other sites aren't and everyone's opinion can be seen equally.

At what point is it not a vocal minority? Seems like a pretty substantial chunk of people to me considering how much filled every platform with discourse. Not even Stormblood was this bad.

An aside - I wonder what it's going to be like once KR and CN get a hold of DT. They can be absolutely savage sometimes.

A vocal minority becomes the majority when they start saying something I agree with.