#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

Optimized gameplay is never "fun", it's just there to do the job.

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Originally Posted by TBerry

You mean you *GASP* did content often enough and learned from it?

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You should be rewarded for learning the content.

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Originally Posted by TBerry

Optimized gameplay is never "fun", it's just there to do the job.

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The thing is, optimized gameplay should be fun. Having it be "there just to do the job" is a failing in design by the game developers.

BTW, I love your signature. It made me laugh.

I mean, I get the point that an activity logically gets easier when we master it and get good with it. However, when we are saying an important part of gameplay is never fun... We are kind of forgetting the whole point to playing a game.

I could even use FF9 as an example. Players have found using Zidane, Freya and Quina can be broken due to them having moves that can completely ignore defense with 9999 damage. You just need to grind using Steal / Mug, catching frogs and killing dragons to make them good. Quina is broken for a second reason, but that starts to get into more major spoiler turf on the final boss. Although despite this, I still use Garnet and Eiko summons and Amarant keeps their mana up easily with Trance Chakra. I think Vivi and Steiner can work too using dark absorb gear to change the Doomsday recoil damage into healing. Have to test that out if the game gives the gear to do that for all 4 party members.

The reason for these choices? Because it's fun to burn the enemies with laser beams, meteors and judgment rays. As long as the animations and sound effects have a strong impact. The ones using Freya and Quina for level 1 runs have fun too since it tests how well they can use equipment stats and the virus debuff to their advantage.

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Originally Posted by Tigore

I mean, I get the point that an activity logically gets easier when we master it and get good with it. However, when we are saying an important part of gameplay is never fun... We are kind of forgetting the whole point to playing a game.

I could even use FF9 as an example. Players have found using Zidane, Freya and Quina can be broken due to them having moves that can completely ignore defense with 9999 damage. You just need to grind using Steal / Mug, catching frogs and killing dragons to make them good. Quina is broken for a second reason, but that starts to get into more major spoiler turf on the final boss. Although despite this, I still use Garnet and Eiko summons and Amarant keeps their mana up easily with Trance Chakra. I think Vivi and Steiner can work too using dark absorb gear to change the Doomsday recoil damage into healing. Have to test that out if the game gives the gear to do that for all 4 party members.

The reason for these choices? Because it's fun to burn the enemies with laser beams, meteors and judgment rays. As long as the animations and sound effects have a strong impact. The ones using Freya and Quina for level 1 runs have fun too since it tests how well they can use equipment stats and the virus debuff to their advantage.

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Well said! The FFXIV is a game. Players should enjoy every aspect of gameplay. At this point, many healers aren't. They aren't even enjoying the majority of our gameplay because most of it is pushing one button repeatedly.

Strange how when you optimize the hell out of Profane/Aetherweaver WHM (or any healers in there, really) in BSF it can be rewarding, fun, or both of them sometimes.

Hmmmmm :P

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Strange how when you optimize the hell out of Profane/Aetherweaver WHM (or any healers in there, really) in BSF it can be rewarding, fun, or both of them sometimes.

Hmmmmm :P

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Especially when you line up Lost Seraph Strike/Lost Chainspell/Lost Font of Magic with your own job, since they all have different cds. Managing multiple buffs with different cds that also interact with your dot/nukes makes healers gain a lot of depth in that content, without compromising their healing ability (tho, tbf, you barely need to heal there at all).

They should add cleric stance back.

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Originally Posted by Galvuu

Especially when you line up Lost Seraph Strike/Lost Chainspell/Lost Font of Magic with your own job, since they all have different cds. Managing multiple buffs with different cds that also interact with your dot/nukes makes healers gain a lot of depth in that content, without compromising their healing ability (tho, tbf, you barely need to heal there at all).

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Nowadays I'd agree. On patch however, some healing was still needed, especially when Rays wasn't a thing back then. I remembered those times when I got shoven into the DRN party as the sole WHM with no other players in the party bringing their own Lost Cure I-IVs. Popped Aetherweaver with LSS and Font. Made me carefully consider where I'm dropping Asylum & Temperance to ensure I can eek out that extra healing magic potencies to reduce the amount of Medica II needed (didn't need much, turns out. Less than 5 was cast in entire run :)). Then, there was purposely drifting LSS and Font to match the old 150s PoM and/or 90s Blood Lily. Good times, that was.

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Originally Posted by Tigore

I mean, I get the point that an activity logically gets easier when we master it and get good with it. However, when we are saying an important part of gameplay is never fun... We are kind of forgetting the whole point to playing a game.

I could even use FF9 as an example. Players have found using Zidane, Freya and Quina can be broken due to them having moves that can completely ignore defense with 9999 damage. You just need to grind using Steal / Mug, catching frogs and killing dragons to make them good. Quina is broken for a second reason, but that starts to get into more major spoiler turf on the final boss. Although despite this, I still use Garnet and Eiko summons and Amarant keeps their mana up easily with Trance Chakra. I think Vivi and Steiner can work too using dark absorb gear to change the Doomsday recoil damage into healing. Have to test that out if the game gives the gear to do that for all 4 party members.

The reason for these choices? Because it's fun to burn the enemies with laser beams, meteors and judgment rays. As long as the animations and sound effects have a strong impact. The ones using Freya and Quina for level 1 runs have fun too since it tests how well they can use equipment stats and the virus debuff to their advantage.

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This right here says fucking everything those children can't understand.

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Originally Posted by TBerry

Optimized gameplay is never "fun", it's just there to do the job.

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Perhaps never fun to you.

I personally greatly enjoy optimising and spreadsheeting. You can say you find it tedious and unfun, but don't presume to speak as if it's not fun for everyone else.