Missing Genders: A request for Male Miqote, Female Highlander, and Female Roegadyn

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Roegadyn will never have tails as the tail was how Galka reproduced in XI. It was cut off and a new body regenerated out of it after the original body was burnt to ash, when the new body was ready it would return to town with most of the memories of the warrior who had left but none of the skills or training needing to be retaught what it was to be a Galka.

Roegadyn do not reincarnate like Galka so there is no reason for that lore piece.

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Wut? The tail, as far as I know, was not how they reincarnated. From what I understand of it, the reason galka reincarnated was due to the fact the part of the mothercrystal the souls of their race returned to was sealed off in another dimension in Al'Teaiu, preventing the souls from returning, and so when a galka died they would reincarnate, and the shock of dying and being reborn wiped most of their recollection of what their previous life was, or something to that effect.

I have a feeling that now with Yoshi on the wheel people may actually see female Roegadyns, male Mi'qote and maybe even female Highlanders in the game before too long. I would very much like this, if only for the diversity.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Where the hell in my entire first post did I demand they be distributed RIGHT NOW?
You make it sound like we are demanding something impossible when we are not. The first post asks if they still have plans to release them that is it. We don't care when, just want an answer yes or no. If I had to say when, I'd say have them ready for the PS3 release.

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You dont understand my point so im gonna drop it.
This is pure cosmetic change , is even less necessary than jump or pvp , and god knows jump and pvp should not be priorities right now.
The devs are looking into whatever thread got more posts, so it would be rather sad that we are discussing thins such as this instead of trying to fix the game .It doesnt matter if your asking for now or when the expansion comes.What it matters is how much does this would make the game better.This is purely cosmetic.
If you think a cosmetic change it is really important then i rest my case.
Carry on.

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Originally Posted by Zkieve

You dont understand my point so im gonna drop it.
This is pure cosmetic change , is even less necessary than jump or pvp , and god knows jump and pvp should not be priorities right now.
The devs are looking into whatever thread got more posts, so it would be rather sad that we are discussing thins such as this instead of trying to fix the game .It doesnt matter if your asking for now or when the expansion comes.What it matters is how much does this would make the game better.This is purely cosmetic.
If you think a cosmetic change it is really important then i rest my case.
Carry on.

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Lets put it this way. This issues been around longer then all of the ones concerning FF XIV.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Lets put it this way. This issues been around longer then all of the ones concerning FF XIV.

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Like i said before, he is one of the trolls who just doesnt want to see the missing genders in the game at all. What he doesnt seem to understand is that if they dont add them eventually there will be a big hole in the story/lore. Its not just cosmetic, its a big part of the entire game.

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Originally Posted by Natabant

Like i said before, he is one of the trolls who just doesnt want to see the missing genders in the game at all. What he doesnt seem to understand is that if they dont add them eventually there will be a big hole in the story/lore.

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And how exactly? XI went for years w/o a male mithra and no plot holes?

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

And how exactly? XI went for years w/o a male mithra and no plot holes?

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Because the lore supported that male mithras never came to the main continent and were very rare. In FFXIV it says nothing like that, all it says is they are somewhat anti-social, but they are not few in number, so there is no excuse not to add them this time.

I wouldn't be surprised if they added them in the next major content release you have to pay for.

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Originally Posted by Natabant

Because the lore supported that male mithras never came to the main continent and were very rare. In FFXIV it says nothing like that, all it says is they are somewhat anti-social, but they are not few in number, so there is no excuse not to add them this time.

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Not to mention the mentions of female Roegadyn.

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Originally Posted by Natabant

Like i said before, he is one of the trolls who just doesnt want to see the missing genders in the game at all. What he doesnt seem to understand is that if they dont add them eventually there will be a big hole in the story/lore. Its not just cosmetic, its a big part of the entire game.

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Way to go calling people trolls simply because they dont think is a important feature.
Were exactly did i say i didnt want this implemented ?Or do everyone who dont agree with you in some points is labeled as a troll to you ?.
Childish attitude got going there.

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Originally Posted by Zkieve

Way to go calling people trolls simply because they dont think is a important feature.
Were exactly did i say i didnt want this implemented ?Or do everyone who dont agree with you in some points is labeled as a troll to you ?.
Childish attitude got going there.

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lol I kind of feel bad for you...

while I don't agree with what you're saying, I can respect your opinion. You aren't trolling, you're just saying that other things should take priorities before new races do. That's fine, I see where you're coming from (personally, cosmetics are very important to me and apparently these guys in games, though).
It kind of amazes me how quickly people are to call others trolls. Zkieve may have a different opinion, yes... but that doesn't make him a troll. It's not like he's saying "LOL ANYONE WHO WANTS MALE MIQOTES IN FFXIV ARE FURRIES AND YOURE ALL STUPID FOR WANTING DIFFERENT RACES". THAT'S a troll. He's just saying that the game has more important issues to correct first before we introduce more cosmetic things.

I'd like people to respect other's opinions... although that seems to be a lot to ask with these forums.

Anyway...

Speaking of cosmetics, I got kind of pissed off looking at the FFXIV official site yesterday. I saw some things in the old screenshots/CGI and videos that weren't in the game, like white face paint for miqo'te. Why the heck isn't this in the game right now? It's just a couple of small textures to implement, especially if they already have it done... that makes no sense. I'm still pretty appalled by SE's lack of character creation options, especially with how they were flaunting it pre-release. I hope when/if they implement the missing genders they also implement new features for existing models. ~_~
I remember when they said they added new features in Beta 3... the only thing they added was one hairstyle. For female humes. Really. Come on. I want more diversity. =\

They definately need to add more makeup options.

Also the only people I'd consider really trolling this issue are the ones who do not want them because they want to keep the FFXI lore. Which isn't even valid.

Also please stop editing the tag cloud. I wish they could let the thread author lock the cloud.

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Originally Posted by Zkieve

Way to go calling people trolls simply because they dont think is a important feature.
Were exactly did i say i didnt want this implemented ?Or do everyone who dont agree with you in some points is labeled as a troll to you ?.
Childish attitude got going there.

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Ya i apologize for calling you a troll, you arent. I'm just tired of people who keep saying that the game needs to be fixed first, we all know that and if you read all the posts you would know that we agree with you on that point. This game DEFINATELY needs to be fixed before the missing genders can be implimented, however all we are asking for is just a clear answer on whether or not they plan on putting them in the game in the near future or way down the line.

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Originally Posted by Natabant

Ya i apologize for calling you a troll, you arent. I'm just tired of people who keep saying that the game needs to be fixed first, we all know that and if you read all the posts you would know that we agree with you on that point. This game DEFINATELY needs to be fixed before the missing genders can be implimented, however all we are asking for is just a clear answer on whether or not they plan on putting them in the game in the near future or way down the line.

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No worries man, forums sometimes can make people jump over small stuff, i had that happen to me before as well to many times.I just take it easy and enjoy good discussions now.Kinda my fault anyways for not reading the 300ish posts >.<.

Idk if they are in a position right now to plan that far ahead.personally i like the mystery surrounding the race/genders in question ^^.Kinda would break that if you see them everywhere =).

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Originally Posted by Zkieve

No worries man, forums sometimes can make people jump over small stuff, i had that happen to me before as well to many times.I just take it easy and enjoy good discussions now.Kinda my fault anyways for not reading the 300ish posts >.<.

Idk if they are in a position right now to plan that far ahead.personally i like the mystery surrounding the race/genders in question ^^.Kinda would break that if you see them everywhere =).

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lol true :P, but the lore/backstory is in the game that they are all common, except for female highlander, i think they are only around Ala Migho and only the males leave the city, but male miqote and female roegadyn's are both pretty common according to the lore.

For me personally I would love to have Male Miqo'tes added. The other two mentioned, well what the hell why not.

If/when they add them I agree that there has to be a form of race/gender change option be it one-off for those playing before said implementation or something like Aions (but not as expensive thanks >.<).

However, before people think I want it now now now, I do not want that, rather it be part of a proper retail expansion so for exmaple can make a storyline that introduces all these mentioned genders (female Roegadyn could be living mainly on another island close by or something).

This is one of my least important matters I would like to be implemented, however, I would still like to hear a response from Yoshi-P so it can settle alot of silly discussions across the web. So yeah hopefully we can hear at some point where it all stands with the new team.

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Originally Posted by Zkieve

Um , well idk i seen other games were they had the option to pick muscular women and they were never popular.

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Most likely because westerner's image of muscular women inevitably leads to something quite ugly. Like I said, they don't have to be overly muscular and they can still look good despite having muscles.

As for male miqo'te, if they already have models for the NPCs, they can as well add it to playable classes. With so little choices for hair and face we have now, the difference is small.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Most likely because westerner's image of muscular women inevitably leads to something quite ugly. Like I said, they don't have to be overly muscular and they can still look good despite having muscles.

As for male miqo'te, if they already have models for the NPCs, they can as well add it to playable classes. With so little choices for hair and face we have now, the difference is small.

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And even so, the quote

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Um , well idk i seen other games were they had the option to pick muscular women and they were never popular.

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while being opinionated is also false.

Female Tauren, Female Orcs, Female Trolls, from Wow come to mind as extremely muscular and extremely popular amongst WoW players.

Female Orcs from Lineage 2 were extremely popular.
In Aion I've seen lots of people playing as large Buff Females on both sides.

All the females in Auto Assault besides the humans were buff and muscular and all were very popular.

The Wolf people(forgot their names) and the Orcs from Darkfall had rather large female populations.



Speaking of Linage 2 Orcs..

http://i52.tinypic.com/209t7ko.jpg

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Speaking of Linage 2 Orcs..

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3K...odybuilder.jpg

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I Fix it for you.
Oh, how have we ever gotten here from the days of D&D, when people wanted to play elf paladins? Same old argument, same new spin. I say, if SE has a reason for them not to be there because of some plot element (like in 11) then let it stand. If they don't, and they don't care, then add them. If its a simple matter of not wanting/being unable to afford mo-cap for the new models, well, I'd rather they apply the funds, time, and energy to other, more game-wide improvements. As neat as it would be to have man'qote, the simple fact is that race does not matter for mechanics; its just fluff. If, after the mechanics are worked out, fluff is still on the menu, that's another matter.

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Originally Posted by origamikitsune

I Fix it for you.
Oh, how have we ever gotten here from the days of D&D, when people wanted to play elf paladins? Same old argument, same new spin. I say, if SE has a reason for them not to be there because of some plot element (like in 11) then let it stand. If they don't, and they don't care, then add them. If its a simple matter of not wanting/being unable to afford mo-cap for the new models, well, I'd rather they apply the funds, time, and energy to other, more game-wide improvements. As neat as it would be to have man'qote, the simple fact is that race does not matter for mechanics; its just fluff. If, after the mechanics are worked out, fluff is still on the menu, that's another matter.

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I posted a picture of a woman who is buff because of a lifetime of combat and real world training not to mention the genetic evolution necessary for her race to exist.

You post a picture of a woman whose buff because of steroids.

There is a huge difference there that is like jumping to conclusions across the grand canyon. Female Orcs from Linage II are beautiful, what you posted is a travesty and a really bad example of what we are asking for.

Also as you obviously didn't READ the memo. FEMALE ROEGADYN, MALE MIQO'TE and FEMALE HIGHLANDERS EXIST IN THE LORE THEY ARE NOT RESTRICTED BY IT. IF ANYTHING THEIR MISSING MEANS THE LORE IS WRONG AND SHOULD BE RET-CONED OR THEIR PRESENCE SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE. PLEASE READ THE FIRST POST AGAIN.

Once you do I need you to file your TPS reports.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

I posted a picture of a woman who is buff because of a lifetime of combat and real world training. You post a picture of a woman whose buff because of steroids. There is a huge difference there that is like jumping to conclusions across the grand canyon.

Also as you obviously didn't READ the memo. FEMALE ROEGADYN, MALE MIQO'TE and FEMALE HIGHLANDERS EXIST IN THE LORE THEY ARE NOT RESTRICTED BY IT PLEASE READ THE FIRST POST AGAIN.

Once you do I need you to file your TPS reports.

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Was being silly with the picture, poking fun at other MMOs, not trying to make a statement about real life people who do or do not gain muscle from natural or artificial means.

I did read the thread, including the op.

I was posting my opinion, which yes, happens to be shared and already expressed by others who pointed out that it exists in the lore. I am aware of this. My apologies for agreeing with everyone who pointed out they exist.

I also pointed out that, while I believe that they should be available if they are supported by the lore, that I would rather they spend the time, effort, and money on other things -IF- they don't have the time, will, or money to do both. My apologies for game-wide mechanics over eye candy.

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Originally Posted by origamikitsune

Was being silly with the picture, poking fun at other MMOs, not trying to make a statement about real life people who do or do not gain muscle from natural or artificial means.

I did read the thread, including the op.

I was posting my opinion, which yes, happens to be shared and already expressed by others who pointed out that it exists in the lore. I am aware of this. My apologies for agreeing with everyone who pointed out they exist.

I also pointed out that, while I believe that they should be available if they are supported by the lore, that I would rather they spend the time, effort, and money on other things -IF- they don't have the time, will, or money to do both. My apologies for game-wide mechanics over eye candy.

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We are not asking for them Right now. We just want an answer on if they are still coming. Then a time frame of when we might expect them. If I had to give this a Dev code I'd give it 1099.

Just so. We continue to not disagree.

Come on Yoshi-P! Tell us what's goin on allready! All the speculation can be done with a yes or no answer. I really hope they say the plan on adding them.

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Originally Posted by Shelia

Speaking of cosmetics, I got kind of pissed off looking at the FFXIV official site yesterday. I saw some things in the old screenshots/CGI and videos that weren't in the game, like white face paint for miqo'te. Why the heck isn't this in the game right now? It's just a couple of small textures to implement, especially if they already have it done... that makes no sense. I'm still pretty appalled by SE's lack of character creation options, especially with how they were flaunting it pre-release. I hope when/if they implement the missing genders they also implement new features for existing models. ~_~
I remember when they said they added new features in Beta 3... the only thing they added was one hairstyle. For female humes. Really. Come on. I want more diversity. =\

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Character customization is quite lacking. However it is leaps and bounds more than what they provided in XI! lol Hell, I remember, being so disappointed after character creation in FFXI when I found out the high polygon models in character creation was not the models you saw in game. EVER! Booo... lol

But if they add more options what are we going to do? If they don't allow you the option to change how your character looks in game or go back to the character creation screen to do it. It's pointless. Nobody is going to create a brand new character just to add a freckle, new hair design or stripes for your face. :( Oh well.

Would love to see more character options. Love the hair highlights! It's very well done!

Especially since the highlights blend nicely instead of just covering color like in some games.

Red Base + Blue Highlights = Purple Streaks. Looks Sexy.

Highlanders confuse me.

What's the point?

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Originally Posted by ARoy

Highlanders confuse me.

What's the point?

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The same reason Nier is a 40 year old buff man in the US and a teenage boy in Japan.

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Originally Posted by ARoy

Highlanders confuse me.

What's the point?

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Hey now, some of us love a guy with muscles instead of those scrawny midlander twinks. >:

We need Green Skinned Highlanders! Ha!

Highlander SMASH!

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Originally Posted by Linkurrra

But if they add more options what are we going to do? If they don't allow you the option to change how your character looks in game or go back to the character creation screen to do it. It's pointless. Nobody is going to create a brand new character just to add a freckle, new hair design or stripes for your face. :( Oh well.

Would love to see more character options. Love the hair highlights! It's very well done!

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The thing is, SE mentioned way back in a couple articles that they'd have an in-game "salon" type of thing to change characteristics for gil. There's like a crap ton of stuff they promised in vanilla that never saw the light of day.

If they have new features I would *assume* it would be introduced around the same time as the "salon"... and the missing genders.

Bump . I would like this questioned answered

I hope lipstick is one of those options... Getting kinda bored of Beige and nude.

Really Sheila? I had never heard that! I kind of thought that they would keep the lackluster design choice that they used in FFXI. Good to hear they are more open minded than I thought.

I remember hearing them say that wanted to put in a salon type of thing too, with more hairstyles perhaps. Was a long while ago though. Maybe even before the game was out.

Hey Cairdeas you should add this concept art pic to the OP too: http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/a...iv_concept.jpg

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Originally Posted by Natabant

Hey Cairdeas you should add this concept art pic to the OP too: http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/a...iv_concept.jpg

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Added as requested.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Added as requested.

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Thank you ^^

I'm all for this, I'd literally start my whole character over if I could pick Male Miq'ote D:
I hope they give us the option to just recreate, though, as i'm hella lazy.

On are way ^^ I wish there was a way to get the question asked directly. Kinda like the Q and A they did with XIV before it was released or hit Yoshi up on twitter if he has one :D

Here ya go Cairdeas, Thought these might help.

http://killingifrit.com/forums/topic...omichi-tanaka/
http://killingifrit.com/forums/topic...yasu-kurosawa/

This is from the 2nd link: Eorzeapedia: There is a growing group in the community who would like to see the implementation of Male Miqo’te and Female Roegadyn in FINAL FANTASY XIV. Are there plans to make these yet to be seen gender and race combination playable? If not, what made you decide not to work them into FINAL FANTASY XIV.

Tanaka: Actually all of the design is ready, so we were planning to implement them into the game, however during the development process we had to put priority with what to put into the game, and due to the man power issue we had to give up implementing them into the beginning of the game. You will see them as an NPC, but it is not a race that you can choose at the beginning. We’ll see how it goes in the future, it might be a possiblity. We are still looking into it.

Looking for more interviews where they talk about race will post them as i find them.