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Originally Posted by Noelani

It's so weird but across the races Face 4's seem to have taken the most dramatic changes. I can see it really clearly here on your au'ra that the whole head/face is squashed vertically by like 5%. My miqo has the same problem. T____T

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I was seeing the exact same thing with female face 4s across races too. Very strange.

Please forgive me quoting myself, but I was intrigued what changes have caused my character to be this different for me.

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Originally Posted by riani

Current - Bench 1.0 - Bench 1.1:https://i.imgur.com/X3YSyKc.png

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Here are my investigations, which made me accept the changes more readily.

https://i.imgur.com/KOHtxw6.png
https://i.imgur.com/y9mQdAU.png
https://i.imgur.com/Le0M1Zi.png
https://i.imgur.com/YT5kMIg.png

Anatomically I don't believe there is anything to pinpoint. Maybe there is a slight tilt of the head, maybe the shape of the forehead is a little different, or maybe the lips are more uniquely defined in the original or more plump in the new, but I believe it's mostly - if not entirely - the new lighting that is causing me to perceive the face to be different, shorter for example. (And the skin shade change doesn't help, but that's not an issue and could be easily adjusted, if I wanted.)

Otherwise, I believe there are 2 main differences and 1 minor in the textures:
- outer eye shape: on the original both the eyeliner line and the embedded shadow above it go upwards, and in the benchmark, downwards.
- inner eye texture (minor): on the original, the inner eye looks more open, as the texture lines there are a little bit farther away from the actual white of the eyes and they go more upwards there than out.
- mouth: (the mouth is open in the original and) both lips have a more unique shape. Also in the original the mouth is wider, because the texture didn't seem to end at the actual corner of the mouth. - I think it was the right choice to correct this last bit though.

So overall I do think it would approximate the original character (and personality) more if the texture around the eyes were tweaked - opening up the inner parts and lifting the outer. The mouth could be tweaked as well so that it would be more unique, but I don't think it would change the face as much as the eyes.

But otherwise, I do believe they made good and realistic choices to upgrade the character. Maybe all we have to do is to get used to those parts that seem different. (And maybe, just maybe hope the devs consider some little tweaks :D)

I like going through this thread and playing spot the difference games with people's pictures only to conclude they're 99.99% the exact same image.

definitely not a fan of the changed miqo faces, they all now smile by default which takes away the neutral or even grumpy expression. also male miqo have rather dead eyes, especially seeker have it bad with their eye slit not being visible anymore :(

male miqo comparison
https://imgur.com/gallery/benchmark-...face-4-9WVqYkt

fem miqo comparison
https://imgur.com/gallery/endwalker-benchmark-BZihhdB



my au'ra character got heavy eyebags now. i can see the charm of them but personally it makes me think she looks tired all the time and i wish it was a toggle or another option rather than the default for the droopy eyes

benchmark:
https://imgur.com/gallery/aura-eyebags-cyi54nf

endwalker:
https://imgur.com/gallery/aura-current-73Cr5zK



i personally do like how they treated elezen but i still noticed that with the current graphics they do look younger than before? and less mature

comparison endwalker vs benchmark
https://imgur.com/gallery/moisturuzed-XnMcoD6



overall the miqo'te got it worst. everything else i might get used to but i can't imagine playing my WOL with that current look anymore

I'm only here to say I love all the changes, Elezen especially are AMAZING, Midlanders are also very good. Au Ra, Miqotes and Viera finally started to look lore accurate.

To all the people complaining, y'all should stop treating this game as second life.

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Originally Posted by riani

Please forgive me quoting myself, but I was intrigued what changes have caused my character to be this different for me.


Here are my investigations, which made me accept the changes more readily.

https://i.imgur.com/KOHtxw6.png
https://i.imgur.com/y9mQdAU.png
https://i.imgur.com/Le0M1Zi.png
https://i.imgur.com/YT5kMIg.png

Anatomically I don't believe there is anything to pinpoint. Maybe there is a slight tilt of the head, maybe the shape of the forehead is a little different, or maybe the lips are more uniquely defined in the original or more plump in the new, but I believe it's mostly - if not entirely - the new lighting that is causing me to perceive the face to be different, shorter for example. (And the skin shade change doesn't help, but that's not an issue and could be easily adjusted, if I wanted.)

Otherwise, I believe there are 2 main differences and 1 minor in the textures:
- outer eye shape: on the original both the eyeliner line and the embedded shadow above it go upwards, and in the benchmark, downwards.
- inner eye texture (minor): on the original, the inner eye looks more open, as the texture lines there are a little bit farther away from the actual white of the eyes and they go more upwards there than out.
- mouth: (the mouth is open in the original and) both lips have a more unique shape. Also in the original the mouth is wider, because the texture didn't seem to end at the actual corner of the mouth. - I think it was the right choice to correct this last bit though.

So overall I do think it would approximate the original character (and personality) more if the texture around the eyes were tweaked - opening up the inner parts and lifting the outer. The mouth could be tweaked as well so that it would be more unique, but I don't think it would change the face as much as the eyes.

But otherwise, I do believe they made good and realistic choices to upgrade the character. Maybe all we have to do is to get used to those parts that seem different. (And maybe, just maybe hope the devs consider some little tweaks :D)

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You detailled your post so well, I wholeheartedly agree!

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I like going through this thread and playing spot the difference games with people's pictures only to conclude they're 99.99% the exact same image.

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I mean if you can't find the differences when they are outlined and drawn for you I'm glad you're not in charge of the graphical update. More competent people are handling that. We would've never gotten the second benchmark and fixes if the devs weren't able to spot what kind of changes people wanted.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I like going through this thread and playing spot the difference games with people's pictures only to conclude they're 99.99% the exact same image.

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And the 0.01% matters to people. Again, this is a feedback thread. People are giving their feedback, even if you think it's pointless.

At risk of feeding trolls, I would just like to say that some of us care. Some of us have spent years and thousands of hours looking at our characters (not implying that those who haven't have any less attachment to their characters) and some of these changes, while they may not seem like a lot to someone who hasn't spent all that time with a specific character model, to those of us who have (and who care) some of the differences (just small changes to the lines) completely change how the character looks. And those tiny changes make it feel like a completely different character.

There are some models I think look really nice now, but I don't play them and I know that those who do, are going to see all the things that were changed. I'm not going to go around telling them that they are wrong and that they should just deal with it. If you can't see the difference, that's fine, but don't complain that others are pointing out the changes that make their characters look and feel different.

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Originally Posted by asrali

You detailled your post so well, I wholeheartedly agree!

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Thank you!
I've posted it on the Japanese forum as well, giving us highlanders a little bit more exposure :)

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Originally Posted by Doozer

And the 0.01% matters to people. Again, this is a feedback thread. People are giving their feedback, even if you think it's pointless.

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for real lol I'm genuinely so confused as to why so many people are waltzing into these feedback threads and going "well I think my character looks perfect/the changes don't matter/I hit randomize features when I made my character and only look at them on the login screen so why are YOU complaining". the devs are literally asking for feedback and people are providing it; this isn't about you.

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Originally Posted by Irishfae

At risk of feeding trolls, I would just like to say that some of us care. Some of us have spent years and thousands of hours and looking at our characters and some of these changes, while they may not seem like a lot to someone who hasn't spent all that time with a specific character model, to those of us who have (and who care) some of the differences (just small changes to the lines) completely change how the character looks. And those tiny changes make it feel like a completely different character.

There are some models I think look really nice now, but I don't play them and I know that those who do, are going to see all the things that were changed. I'm not going to go around telling them that they are wrong and that they should just deal with it. If you can't see the difference, that's fine, but don't complain that others are pointing out the changes that make their characters look and feel different.

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I ran into this exact same issue! So many of my own friends even trying to gaslight me that I was wrong about changes to my characters face.

First it was It does not exist! That's how it has always looked to It is intended! Get used to it and now it's Well it's not as bad as you say it is, you should've just accepted it.

Well guess what? My feedback got accepted as a defect on the Japanese forums! They asked for feedback and we are supplying it. I don't know why so many people are doing the thing where they defend everything about FFXIV when the developers have explicitly asked for feedback.

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Originally Posted by purincchi

for real lol I'm genuinely so confused as to why so many people are waltzing into these feedback threads and going "well I think my character looks perfect/the changes don't matter/I hit randomize features when I made my character and only look at them on the login screen so why are YOU complaining". the devs are literally asking for feedback and people are providing it; this isn't about you.

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It's never even in an attempt to reassure people, either. Just "wow you people are never satisfied huh" or "there's literally no difference between the two versions" like it's going to do anything constructive. What's the point.

I went over some of my alts and retainers, and this is them in the new benchmark:

https://i.postimg.cc/j506hpN5/Update-Alts1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/wvXX4wck/Update-Alts2.png

They have been greatly improved and I have much less to say about them than my main because their resemblance to their current forms is so much higher. On the Vieras I changed the eye color and skin tone to better match the colors in the live game. I also lightened the Elezen's eyes and added light gray eye shadow to try and mask the dark eye bag texture that wasn't there before, and those additions made him look like the same character again. The Femroe and Hroth didn't need any kind of tweaks at all.

The changes are a huge improvement! Love that the eyes are softened and reflect light better. I also appreciate that they reduced the eyeliner on male midlanders from the initial benchmark. The skin tone has a much better look due to the improved lighting. Some of the changes seem subtle, but it's amazing how much of a difference they can make to the overall feel of your character. Very happy with the adjustments overall.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...09f4b0be19d67&

Personally, everything looked better in the first examples they released, before devs started to change things based on feedback

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I like going through this thread and playing spot the difference games with people's pictures only to conclude they're 99.99% the exact same image.

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That's not a particularly fair take. Usually it's a combination of small issues that, combined, creates an outcome that is frustrating the people who have created these characters.

Let's dive into something that is related - many people do not like the way they look in photographs. That is because people are used to seeing themselves in the mirror and when they see themselves as others see them they can often be a bit bothered or repulsed by what they're seeing as their look is somewhat familiar yet somehow "off". They see themselves in a photo and their brain is telling them something is wrong; it doesn't match what they see every day when they're greeted by their reflections in the mirror. Meanwhile, everyone else looking at the photo just sees you the way they've always seen you and isn't noticing the flaws that you do.

The point here being that people have grown attached to the way their characters look, and small deviations may not be noticeable to everyone else but you can be certain they are easy to spot and disturbing to the people who own those characters and see them on a daily basis.

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Originally Posted by Noelani

It's so weird but across the races Face 4's seem to have taken the most dramatic changes. I can see it really clearly here on your au'ra that the whole head/face is squashed vertically by like 5%. My miqo has the same problem. T____T

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It's probably because they got to the face 4 types last... I do hope they polish them up to standard. Some of the 3s are affected as well.

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Originally Posted by riani

Maybe all we have to do is to get used to those parts that seem different.

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The human brain is wired to react negatively to change. In the field I work in, when we push out an update half the users always kneejerk hate it, then 2-3 weeks later nobody cares. Plus some people will never be happy until the updated models are a 1:1 exact duplication of the old ones, which is impossible with an upgrade like this. That's why we're all getting a free fantasia. All of that isn't to say that there aren't some legitimate issues however.

Regarding your suggested alterations, I would personally prefer if they didn't touch the face any further. I think it looks fine as is even with those small differences and other differences you didn't mention but I noticed. Every pass of tweaks is another opportunity for the devs to make the face worse. I thought my 1.0 benchmark face was perfect besides a weird lip issue, but then I lost a very cool looking eye makeup detail because other people can't handle a single pixel being different than the original. Now I'm nervous about what else they'll "fix" in the future.

And before anyone jumps down my throat, I'm not saying your feedback is wrong or you shouldn't give it. I use some of the same options you do, so because this particular feedback effects me directly, I am giving my opposing feedback.

Hyurgoth face 1, black hair and eyebrows
I simply don't recognise my character anymore...

https://i.ibb.co/jVZQDwt/01.png

The difference is really disturbing..


Don't get me wrong the character is pretty, the lights and textures are definitely better.
But the general look is completely different.

The dark hair and eyebrows colors seem to be washed out by the lighting compared to before. The black hair doesn't show as dark, more like dark grey or dark blue, which is a common issue in video games that I always struggle with as I always put black hair on my characters, but this was never an issue with FFXIV before... And it can really mess up the eyebrows as well, and thus the expression of the character.

Eyebrows are less full (even if you add the stronger eyebrows facial feature they still have holes like the regular eyebrows, the facial feature that you can toggle was specifically supposed to fix that by giving you strong eyebrows but now even with this feature activated the eyebrows are still not full...)

https://i.ibb.co/1ZkzHz3/03.png

The eye shape was modified, Eye 3 is supposed to be the only "fox" type eyes for all races, that's the reason why they're my favorite eye shape and why I pick those eyes for all of my WoL, but now the shape isn't as "foxy" anymore as the tip of the eyes now falls downward like all other eye shapes of the game...

The 2nd facial feature that is a sort of liner/black eyeshadow is almost completely useless now, there's barely any difference when you toggle it. The fact that we lost some of the strength of the black/dark shades makes the eyelashes more discreet and thus makes the eyes feel smaller. Even if you activate this facial feature that is supposed to make the eyelashes and eyes pop up a bit more doesn't help at all as the difference is absurdly small. It could've been a solution to this "smaller eyes" feelings but no, it doesn't change anything...

BUT my biggest issue is still the mouth/lips.
They're completely different from before.
I don't mind the new texture at all but the way they changed the line/shape and completely removed the lip corners shades is a big issue to me. The lips suddenly feel fake and doll-like, definitely less realistic than before so for me this is the only real downgrade so far. They also give a more "pokerface" expression to the character while the expression was more neutral and natural before, now she feels a bit haughty...

https://i.ibb.co/5nss3gJ/02.png

The face looks more round and young generally speaking, the chin's shape was definitely smoothed for all races, that's not a big issue to me but if you add it to the rest it really makes my character feel like a complete different character...

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Originally Posted by lolicon09

Personally, everything looked better in the first examples they released, before devs started to change things based on feedback

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I agree to some degree. There was valid criticism and by all means, outright mistakes should be corrected but as for purely aesthetic choices, they should have stuck with their decisions and simply should have given people the time to get used to it. They can't please everyone anyways and and they already went back from improvements like natural light and reflections to artificial light sources (e.g. the catchlight in the eyes that shouldn't be there in a totally dark room) and hardened shadows inestead of the previous soft ones because people couldn't handle the upgrade and needed their low poly flaws back, claiming they had emotional value... We're lost. I'm unhappy. But what can I say, the masses have spoken.

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Originally Posted by MeraHarch

Eyebrows are less full (even if you add the stronger eyebrows facial feature they still have holes like the regular eyebrows, the facial feature that you can toggle was specifically supposed to fix that by giving you strong eyebrows but now even with this feature activated the eyebrows are still not full...)

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I thought the same thing at first and was surprised at the gaps, but if you zoom WAY in it's actually a very accurate reproduction of the original. The difference is that the original is so incredibly low resolution that the gaps mush together and appear more full.

So the artistic dilemma here is do you keep the current 7.0 eyebrows which are technically accurate, or do you make them look thicker which is actually a deviation from the original but closer to the impression of the original. I wouldn't mind if they thickened them up a touch, but my concern would be if they did so and they end up looking worse than they do now, since that would require an artistic judgement call and may not turn out how you and I would prefer. They're not going to change them again after the fact.

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Originally Posted by MeraHarch

The 2nd facial feature that is a sort of liner/black eyeshadow is almost completely useless now, there's barely any difference when you toggle it. The fact that we lost some of the strength of the black/dark shades makes the eyelashes more discreet and thus makes the eyes feel smaller. Even if you activate this facial feature that is supposed to make the eyelashes and eyes pop up a bit more doesn't help at all as the difference is absurdly small. It could've been a solution to this "smaller eyes" feelings but no, it doesn't change anything...

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This was more pronounced in the previous benchmark but changed after feedback because it was different from the original. I liked it a lot too.

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Originally Posted by MeraHarch

BUT my biggest issue is still the mouth/lips.
They're completely different from before.
I don't mind the new texture at all but the way they changed the line/shape and completely removed the lip corners shades is a big issue to me. The lips suddenly feel fake and doll-like, definitely less realistic than before so for me this is the only real downgrade so far. They also give a more "pokerface" expression to the character while the expression was more neutral and natural before, now she feels a bit haughty...

https://i.ibb.co/5nss3gJ/02.png

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I use that same mouth and it's pretty much identical to the original. The reason that little corner shadow looks more pronounced in the original, which creates the illusion that the mouth shape is different, is a combination of much worse lighting bouncing off of much more rudimentary geometry. It's actually still there in the new version if you zoom way in, it's just much more subtle because it's behaving as light on a real face actually should. If the devs were to "fix" this they would probably give the mouth a little smirk which personally I would really hate.

Anyway, not saying you're wrong for posting any of that. I just use many of the same options and thought a lot of the same things at first glance so I'm sharing what I learned upon further inspection.

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Originally Posted by Angelivia

I agree to some degree. There was valid criticism and by all means, outright mistakes should be corrected but as for purely aesthetic choices, they should have stuck with their decisions and simply should have given people the time to get used to it. They can't please everyone anyways and and they already went back from improvements like natural light and reflections to artificial light sources (e.g. the catchlight in the eyes that shouldn't be there in a totally dark room) and hardened shadows inestead of the previous soft ones because people couldn't handle the upgrade and needed their low poly flaws back, claiming they had emotional value... We're lost. I'm unhappy. But what can I say, the masses have spoken.

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I don't mind the lighting change so much but I definitely agree on the new catchlights looking awful. After the actual expansion release people probably wouldn't have cared about the old ones, but oh well.

Your post reminds me of when Blizzard was adding female Worgen to World of Warcraft. They originally looked awesome and just as fierce as the males, but then they were player feedbacked into looking like derpy chihuahuas with mascara.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Don't have the motivation nor energy to do full comparison pics for today. But brief glance thru the new benchmark, I see that they've addressed aplenty of Male Middie Face 7 issues for the most part (kudos to them!). I am however still disappointed that they insisted on keeping the profound nasolabial folds on face 7 when from its inception since 6.0 it's been barely noticeable.

I'm considering to switch back to face 5 now since apparently the new benchmark has toned down their nasolabial folds... but then I won't get to enjoy face 7's stubble :/

Ugh... :smh:

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EXACTLY this. I just spent 5 min switching back and forth between the two, wishing I could go for face 5 with the stubble...

Why not just add stubble to the facial features, SE? :)

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Originally Posted by Risough

My character across all the different graphics versions we've seen. While the lighting changes are impressive, I dislike the more pronounced creases at his brow and the corners of his mouth seem thinner than the benchmark V1/live versions.

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...ea6f5c667d.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...fe8ce8c0a3.jpg

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I've had a chance to sleep on it and I'd like to speak a bit more about those wrinkles on his brow. The furrows are too exaggerated compared to what we see in 6.58. This is for Face 4 highlander.

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...f44ffd19bd.jpg
https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...45071bd9fb.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...af1d17d55c.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...c3738c4544.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...816acf0a95.jpg

I've outlined the area I'm unhappy with above. You can see the wrinkle around the brow is much deeper and darker now. The shading and contrast give the impression that he's always angrier than before. It's especially noticeable when viewed top-down as in the images from my previous post.

Highlander players in general feel pretty ignored. It feels a bit like after 10 years of asking for brows SE has given us a "best we can do is deeper wrinkles." I don't expect to see eyebrows as part of the update but I hope there is still some time to make adjustments to match the look we had.

Comparing the current brow to the first benchmark, perhaps the crease was exaggerated to fix the lighting in the old build? If so I hope the shading can be adjusted to be less severe in 7.0.

Lordy folks are picky af... Ya'll do you though, just keep in mind you prolly wont see any further changes by launch, its crunch time.

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Originally Posted by Hanayumi

Lordy folks are picky af... Ya'll do you though, just keep in mind you prolly wont see any further changes by launch, its crunch time.

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I genuinely have no idea why people come on a feedback megathread; exactly the way the forums are supposed to work; and basically say “what’s the point yall just give up l” when this is exactly what yoshi p asked us to do

Sure it may not fix the problem before launch but this isn’t the end of the graphics updates

Like do you genuinely have nothing better to do

A closer comparison of the eyes on F Moon Miqo Face 2, Eyes 6, Brow 2 between benchmarks. I really liked how in the first benchmark, the eyebrows were a softer color, and not as thin on the inner part. Looks kinda like drawn-on angry eyebrows in the newer one. Having the heavier eye makeup was my preference, sad that they reduced that without adding it as a facial feature option. And the iris and pupil themselves looked less uncanny in v1.

v1
https://i.imgur.com/zQHDgNW.png
v2
https://i.imgur.com/sYjp7YM.png

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I've outlined the area I'm unhappy with above. You can see the wrinkle around the brow is much deeper and darker now. The shading and contrast give the impression that he's always angrier than before.

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He actually looks ever so slightly more relaxed and happier than before, due to a subtle shadow on the corners of his mouth that hint at a smile. The slightly deeper furrows doesn't make his expression look angrier at all.

As far as not paying much attention to Highlanders, they fixed an issue on my Highlander's brow ridge that I didn't even realize was there, until I did a side by side by side of live, 1.0 bench, and A Benchmark Reborn.

Of all the races, I'm really liking the Midlander looks. Some of the details look even closer to what modern FF character models look like.

I'll call this revenge of the Midlander. The race that got dismissed for looking like dolls are getting the best revamp with 7.0. Now if they can just fix the female midlander lips...

I'm happy with the new graphics for the most part and I really feel the improvement between benchmarks! The new lighting really helps.

My two grievances are:

1. Face 4, eye type 6 on female Keepers. The eyes look like they've been stretched a bit wider, and... softened? They look more natural now, for sure, but I find the angular appearance of these eyes to be quite cute and distinctive as they are. I can make myself accept this one as a consequence of different perceptions of what these eyes "should" look like, but in general female Miqo'te eyes updates have been hit-or-miss for my friends and me, so it might be worth mentioning.

2. Hair is a lot duller now. I feel it the most on my alts with black and near-black hair; they become grayish in the light, and there's not nearly as much shine to them. This might have to do with the way characters are lit now, but it's a confusing adjustment to me. I like the vibrancy of our current hair! (I think this might be at least part of the issue with male Viera getting their eyebrows nerfed?)

Overall, pretty happy with my own character. Now I am just playing with the "Randomize Appearance" button and finding all the funny, horrible, and "Oh, that's actually a great idea" looks on all gender and races. It is a fun pass time, and a funky way to find some hidden issues that someone may have overlooked.

I genuinely dislike that we went back to old high contrast shadows because people couldn't handle an actual light model.

Benchmark crashes if I try to load my character.
*shrug*

I posted my feedback on the JP thread, sharing the original version here:

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Originally Posted by Mouthbone

Thank you for your hard work and continued dedication to improve the graphics update.
I appreciate the changes made to Hellsguard male roegadyn face 4, they are noticeable and faithful to the original design.

However, I have feedback regarding some features of the update:

1. In the 1.1 version of the benchmark, there is a very prominent lip gloss effect in certain lighting conditions, enabled by default:
https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...100e1afa32.jpg
https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...d4cf3757a7.jpg
As you can see, in direct lighting and during nighttime, the lip gloss effect is very noticeable.
Please note that no lipstick was applied in these screenshots. In the original design, there was no lip gloss applied to the lips by default. I believe that the lip gloss should be an opt-in feature.
However, in overhead lighting, the lip gloss effect is subtle:
https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...1324586a0a.jpg
I am fine with this, I feel like this amount of lip gloss is natural.

2. The Hellsguard ash nose is too subtle in the 1.1 benchmark:
https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...a751803b2f.jpg
I appreciate that the signature Hellsguard nose now has a more natural smudged look, however, I feel that it is too subtle in the 1.1 benchmark compared to the original design. In certain lighting conditions, it can be confused for a shadow. I think that the Hellsguard nose is an important part of their design and should be preserved, it's charming and makes you stand out among others.

3. The head hair and beard hair are mismatched in the 1.1 benchmark:
https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...a86120b247.jpg
In the original design, the head hair and beard hair stay the same color in the direct lighting. Only some shine is applied to the head hair.
On the other hand, in the 1.1 benchmark the head hair and beard hair look mismatched. The head hair becomes a shade lighter and it looks like it is dyed a different color. This looks very jarring and I think it should be adjusted.

4 The beard is floating above the face:
https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...6f47c89692.jpg
The beard is not attached to the face and it looks very unnatural. This is a very common issue, it would be very nice if it could be addressed in the graphics update.

This is all of the complaints that I have regarding the graphics update.
As mentioned before, thank you for your hard work and I hope that you will consider my feedback.

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Im going for a new look come Dawntrail ^.^

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...720&height=393

that black line's the ugliest part of that Roe's face and always made me use another Fantasia, coz it's annoying. Happy it's gone already.

i think miqo eyes are a little blurry , i wish the colors were as vibrant as au ra's eyes
but other than that i think she looks cute

https://i.imgur.com/kUNnowK.png
https://i.imgur.com/PPxF97I.png

benchmark just made me ugly

Before:
https://i.ibb.co/M9zPymS/Skjermbilde...-05-132026.png

after:
https://i.ibb.co/Dkj5vr8/Skjermbilde...-05-131906.png

WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST LASHES SQUARE?? why remove the corner lashes?? they did it on viera too. They're cute and flattering. WHY???
And also the face somehow looks paler and chubbier, and the lips, UGH THE LIPS. Lol. Im sad. I'll have to change to smaller lips if they dont fix that.
https://64.media.tumblr.com/8587e4e7...5yr7o1_500.gif

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Originally Posted by Reinha

I mean if you can't find the differences when they are outlined and drawn for you I'm glad you're not in charge of the graphical update. More competent people are handling that. We would've never gotten the second benchmark and fixes if the devs weren't able to spot what kind of changes people wanted.

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Yes. But sometimes, the differences are so small, that i hope, that the people, who complain, will never buy a new monitor or a new GPU. Because the game will become unplayable for them because with the new monitor the character will look completely different.



Cheers

Sadly don`t know japanese, otherwise would post it there x). But my biggest and pretty much only complain are the eyes #6. if I`m not mistaken, shape looks different now. https://i.imgur.com/8aelNnh.jpeg