Hidden Artifacts is an Insult!

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

http://i45.tinypic.com/2ms4i9g.png

That's what I have so far

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English - What it looks like to me
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...Eft_(FFXI).png

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Originally Posted by Scherwiz

English - What it looks like to me
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...Eft_(FFXI).png

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What exactly is that creature called ?

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

What exactly is that creature called ?

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Eft in FFXI

http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/...artaruseft.JPG

It is far too small to fit with the other concept arts which at the moment appear to be large monsters. Also, XIV already has an Eft mob, but then again the one thought to be German atm are the Dodo mobs from XI.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

1) Its only ONE concept art ( the other ones I can't make them out)
2) They are showing us what will BE in 2.0 ( Hence the Behemoth Concept Art, and it could very well be different, Yes its a behemoth.. but does it look different in anyway shape or form?
3) SE DIDN'T lie They are only showing us whats going to be in 2.0, that alone should get us excited to see these 4 things in the game.

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if only you knew what you were talkin about. it must be easy to say that concept art from the book i got from ffxiv, THE ORIGINAL, is going to be in ffxiv 2.0. since its not in the game now this is hardly news. i think the word new is what makes this sad.

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Originally Posted by TnelisPotencia

if only you knew what you were talkin about. it must be easy to say that concept art from the book i got from ffxiv, THE ORIGINAL, is going to be in ffxiv 2.0. since its not in the game now this is hardly news. i think the word new is what makes this sad.

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One thing I learned on these forums is to not argue with people.. because in the end it will result in a 15 page debate on how one person is wrong and your right.. so I'm just letting you be right.

I can sum up the majority of this thread in one image.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/20546845.jpg
First world problems.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

One thing I learned on these forums is to not argue with people.. because in the end it will result in a 15 page debate on how one person is wrong and your right.. so I'm just letting you be right.

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indeed, don't feed the trolls.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Happy now?......

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Actually yes.

And people stop using 'entitlement'. It's a really stupid buzzword and had no real relevance to this topic. We weren't asking for more, we where just asking for Square to be clear and honest. And that shouldn't be something to shun.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you do realize alot of people havent seen this right?
its not always gonna be aimed at older players who got the CE

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Doesn't matter, if it is old art, then it is old.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

That mob isn't in the game yet, therefore it is new.

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it is new in game, but it is not new concept art.

Anyway, it is good now that SE change the description.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Actually yes.

And people stop using 'entitlement'. It's a really stupid buzzword and had no real relevance to this topic. We weren't asking for more, we where just asking for Square to be clear and honest. And that shouldn't be something to shun.

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We should take their filler updates and be grateful we've been filled!

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

This I wouldn't mind actually. The best thing about 2.0 is the new engine and a server structure that actually makes sense so they can make cool content. If all they have in E3 (months before release) is some CGI, that's ok.

We're essentially starting over.

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Not acceptable for me and most of the JP players on the JP forums and I know lots on the NA forum & in-game who wont accept CGI only for E3.

YoshiP already said he has to think about the NEW players who never touched the game but will try to put in as much for current playing players as well and most of us want to see the actual in-game screen and not no fancy CGI movie which we all know SE's already good at doing.

As for this thread talk.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Actually yes.

And people stop using 'entitlement'. It's a really stupid buzzword and had no real relevance to this topic. We weren't asking for more, we where just asking for Square to be clear and honest. And that shouldn't be something to shun.

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^^ THIS - it's not worth getting pissed off about it, was mad yesterday but not worth being grumpy over hours

BTW that Behemoth actually has subligar on.

The problem is that we were all using the wrong definition of "Artifacts." SE did not mean to be revealing Hidden "products of human workmanship", but rather the lesser used definition of "Artifact" meaning "residue" "remainder" or "leftovers" (source). By this definition both the 1.0 concept art and materials in the dats are, in fact, "Hidden Artifacts" (although I suppose one could then take issue with the word "Hidden").

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Originally Posted by Fated

We should take their filler updates and be grateful we've been filled!

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I believe I've mentioned how grateful I am for the event earlier in the thread at least twice. Just because they've gone out of their way to provide something great for us like this fun little event, does not mean they should be allowed shoddy translations or hype based on untruths.
I have had enough of corporations lying to me to try to hype a product, and I don't want Square to fall down that cheap path, because as it turns out, I really like them and don't want them to use cheap manipulative tactics like other certain companies. I'll be happy to shoot down any fallacies if it means I can help them move in the right direction. It may seem like a big fuss over a small mistake, but I expect a lot from this billion dollar company and so should you. You, as the customer, are the lifeblood of the company, and they provide a service for us.

They did good by correcting the mistake and should be respected for it.

SE has a long history of not revealing information.
...thing is they really need to make it all very public this time in the interest of 2.0,
so hopefully that happens after the E3 reveal.

<--wonders where Question 4 is

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Not acceptable for me and most of the JP players on the JP forums and I know lots on the NA forum & in-game who wont accept CGI only for E3.

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How much are you guys expecting for E3?

...I'm going to prepare for a LOT of QQing. It's not like you can play the game at E3. Even if there are demostrations of gameplay, how much can you really get out of it without playing it yourself? The vast majority isn't going to be shown.

I'm not really excited about E3 I'm excited about the release of 2.0 and trying out the game for myself.

http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/16/84/76/05/roc_di10.jpg

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Originally Posted by Antanias

<--wonders where Question 4 is

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no kidding. What happened to the three questions for today?

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Originally Posted by Antanias

<--wonders where Question 4 is

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Question 4/5/6 will come when Bayo/Ruki/Cam Clock in for work on the English end.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

How much are you guys expecting for E3?

...I'm going to prepare for a LOT of QQing. It's not like you can play the game at E3. Even if there are demostrations of gameplay, how much can you really get out of it without playing it yourself? The vast majority isn't going to be shown.

I'm not really excited about E3 I'm excited about the release of 2.0 and trying out the game for myself.

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I don't expect everything to be in-game related stuff since they still have lots to work on but... per 2.0 Roadmap

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http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/a...Ruwz9uAl2k.jpg

We should be able to see at least some of these stuff, don't you agree?
Character Creation, Some Dungeon, Battle, Graphic Engine is supposedly completed,
If different from current: Chocobo, Airship

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

I don't expect everything to be in-game related stuff since they still have lots to work on but... per 2.0 Roadmap

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http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/a...Ruwz9uAl2k.jpg

We should be able to see at least some of these stuff, don't you agree?
Character Creation, Some Dungeon, Battle, Graphic Engine is supposedly completed,
If different from current: Chocobo, Airship

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All that stuff you see on your Picture.. is whats going to be completed for 2.0 not after... The stuff that people been asking for that's not on the 2.0 Roadmap will be there sometime after 2.0. That Picture is a "Priority List".

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

I say one is an eft or manticore and the other is a Taurus or something new. A FFXI style eft not the giant gecko ones we have in game now.

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Originally Posted by Scherwiz

English - What it looks like to me
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...Eft_(FFXI).png

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Mmmhm

/10chars

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

I don't expect everything to be in-game related stuff since they still have lots to work on but... per 2.0 Roadmap

We should be able to see at least some of these stuff, don't you agree?
Character Creation, Some Dungeon, Battle, Graphic Engine is supposedly completed,
If different from current: Chocobo, Airship

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Not necessarily. When I look at that road map, I see changes the devs have planned that will mostly take place in the 2.0 dev environment rather than changes to 1.XX. Therefore, we won't actually see most of it until at least 2.0 beta.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Not necessarily. When I look at that road map, I see changes the devs have planned that will mostly take place in the 2.0 dev environment rather than changes to 1.XX. Therefore, we won't actually see most of it until at least 2.0 beta.

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Mmm I was talking about 2.0 promotion video they going to show at E3 in that one nothing about 1.XX... ><

Besides at this point Majority of 2.0 Basic functions and Content related should be nearly completed.. since Beta is around the Corner. They should be on there Testing and Finalizing Stage.. then Stress testing the New Servers. Beta is Nearly 3-4 months away.. and they are 1 month ahead of schedule for 2.0. I fully believe they have enough Resource to Mount an E3 Blowout to show the Crowd what FFXIV is really made of.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Besides at this point Majority of 2.0 Basic functions and Content related should be nearly completed.. since Beta is around the Corner. They should be on there Testing and Finalizing Stage.. then Stress testing the New Servers. Beta is Nearly 3-4 months away.. and they are 1 month ahead of schedule for 2.0. I fully believe they have enough Resource to Mount an E3 Blowout to show the Crowd what FFXIV is really made of.

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If they can show card game as a surprise on top of that will get the crowd really heated up for 2.0 (not all but know many still wanted that card game & gold saucer talk YoshiP mentioned lol)

Question 4 is up~ and answered lol.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

I don't expect everything to be in-game related stuff since they still have lots to work on but... per 2.0 Roadmap

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http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/a...Ruwz9uAl2k.jpg

We should be able to see at least some of these stuff, don't you think?

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Yep. I agree. It seems like there should be quite a few things that could be shown at E3.

That's not to say that I think the 2.0 client is finished or anything, but the roadmap in Rein's message suggests that 2.0 is at the point where parts of it can be shown off. Of course, this roadmap could be wrong now (actually, I really hope that they update it very soon). But if the initial version of the 2.0 client really is going to be ready for download in November, I'd imagine that there's stuff to see now.

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On an unrelated note, I've seen some people wondering whether the word 新生 (shinsei: directly translated as "rebirth" or "new birth") caused confusion in translation. As Rein already posted, in this case 新生 refers to version 2.0. That is what 2.0 has been called in Japanese from the time the PDFs were first released. Let me assure you (to the extent that you can trust a random person on the forums, at least) that no one on the translation team could have been confused as to its meaning. It has been as clear as day from the very beginning that 新生ファイナルファンタジーXIV = Final Fantasy XIV Version 2.0. In English, we shorten that to just "2.0", whereas in Japanese they just say 新生.

With that said, not all of the translations that the NA team posts are exact translations from Japanese. Sometimes the translations are exact, but often the NA team takes what was said in Japanese and rewrites it in their own words. Sometimes they even add in little bits of information. Honestly, that's a good thing. A lot is lost in an "exact" translation, and it can end up sounding robotic (even if it sounded just fine in Japanese). By delivering messages in their own words, the NA team gives their "personal touch" to communication, restoring the feeling that a real person is talking to you.

Considering that the Japanese Lodestone says that the blue panels hide "Final Fantasy XIV Version 2.0 Concept Art", and calls Hidden Artifacts a "Version 2.0 Concept Art Quiz", it's fair to assume this is new stuff. I'm not saying that to fuel debate in here, but rather to tell you to let the translator off the hook. He/She only told you what any Japanese reader would have assumed upon reading the original Japanese text.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Mmm I was talking about 2.0 promotion video they going to show at E3 in that one nothing about 1.XX... ><

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In that case I totally agree. Here's to hoping the promotion video has some previously unannounced gems or at least some stuff that we've been given very little info on up to this point.

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Originally Posted by Chimaira

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looks about right, now find it's concept art, or it doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by Matsume

I am just going to assume the people who are not bothered by being lied to either are lied to on a daily basis and thus have lost their sense of dignity, or lie to others on a daily basis and have lost their sense of honor.

This is not about being "madbro" and "mad" is actually the wrong word to apply. For that matter, none of the posters whom are bothered by this post have come out and said "i am mad bro" they have, more precisely, expressed dissapointment for various reasons.

The posters who "arenotmadbro" just so happen to be the ones labelling the posters who are annoyed by this as "madbro" and essentially lack what is known as empathy and rather than understand the reasons for their sentiments decide to prejudiciously label them as they see fit.

Well then...

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People lie all the time. I do, you do. I save my energy for things worth getting upset over. I don't see anything wrong with people getting upset here though. The "holier than thou" stuff is a bit much :o.

French one looks like Bahamut

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...6&d=1337278943

You guys sure love to hate this company and nit pick every damn thing they do wrong.
Grow up children.

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Originally Posted by Andros

You guys sure love to hate this company and nit pick every damn thing they do wrong.
Grow up children.

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A company is not a person.

A company is not your friend.

A company should be held to a high standard so they don't think they can get away with treating their customers like crap (Capcom and EA, I'm looking at you). They should be given admiration when they fix mistakes, like they did, but not defended when they mess up. Especially with companies as huge as Square.

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Originally Posted by Fear

French one looks like Bahamut

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...6&d=1337278943

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...on what planet does that look like Bahamut?

Yeah how dare we criticize people who are charging us a monthly fee to entertain us

This thread is stupid.
You people whine way too much and won't ever be happy.

After 2.0 they should close down these forums and just focus on making a great game.
I don't see how its at all productive for Square Enix to dedicate any resources to listening to the irrational whines of a bunch of never-happy entitlement cry babies.

One of many pictures displaying an already seen mob design amongst a bunch of new ones doesn't warrant a hundred page flip out thread. Get a grip on yourselves.

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

...on what planet does that look like Bahamut?

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That looks very similiar to FFX's Bahamut don't you think?

Heres FFX's Bahamut, compare it

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...ne_Bahamut.png

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Originally Posted by DarthTaru

This thread is stupid.
You people whine way too much and won't ever be happy.

After 2.0 they should close down these forums and just focus on making a great game.
I don't see how its at all productive for Square Enix to dedicate any resources to listening to the irrational whines of a bunch of never-happy entitlement cry babies.

One of many pictures displaying an already seen mob design amongst a bunch of new ones doesn't warrant a hundred page flip out thread. Get a grip on yourselves.

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You want to see me whine?
Alright. Fine. You're so committed to seeing it here we go.

BAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW! SQUARE DOESN'T HAVE NEW THINGS TO SHOW US THEY ARE HORRIBLE LIARS THAT DON'T DESERVE ANY OF MY MONEY! YOU'RE ALL WORTHLESS WHITE KNIGHTS BECAUSE EVERYTHING SQUARE HAS EVER DONE WITH THIS GAME IS WRONG! I WANT ALL OF 2.0'S ASSETS REVEALED TO ME NOW! I'm NOT HAVING FUN!!!
That's what you want to hear right?

Next time. Please actually read and think about our comments before jumping to your stockade of buzzwords. As I have said, many, times before. This isn't about the event. It's about standard quality and clarity of communication and the integrity of a company. Keeping good communication is NOT a waste of time or effort for ANY association.

In any case, the problem is fixed. I have nothing more to complain about the error.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

A company is not a person.

Acompany is not your friend.

A company should be held to a high standard so they don't think they can get away with treating their customers like crap (Capcom and EA, I'm looking at you). They should be given admiration when they fix mistakes, like they did, but not defended when they mess up. Exspecially with companies as huge as Square.

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At least according to US law, corporations ARE people.