One to Fifty, One Zone - Long OP

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Originally Posted by Chrees

I've been keeping up with this thread, just lurking in the background, since it only had a few replies, and I've read every single one of them since then. I don't really have anything to add that hasn't been said already, but thank you to Siobu and everyone else who has contributed so much. already. This is probably, by far, my biggest concern with the game.

Keep up the great work! :cool:

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I second that, been reading following the thread since the first post and well I think this is my biggest concern as well, even before the combat system I'd say. So much that I even came to realize that I'm not at all motivated to keep playing the game, I really hope their bandaid patch 1.18 can at least alleviate some of this until they actually redesign and give the maps some love. I love what the game has the potential to become, it's just not there right now.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Just suggestion but on your first post you should edit it and add the images you made so everyone can see/find it easier.

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I definitely agree! I worried that if I were to edit my first post, that it would lose the 'likes' and possibly the attention of the reps. I didn't want to risk every one's hard work. Of course, if I'm wrong, I'd gladly add them. :)

Thank you!

"Originally Posted by Chinook
French thread done.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...415#post174415

Need 25 "likes" for it to become a "hot topic" (French forums aren't very active ...)."

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Originally Posted by Daedae

Was SO the 25th's 'like' on that :D

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30th!

Siobu, I will add the picture links to my post (directly after the OP) if you don't want to edit it, or you can always put **EDIT** at the bottom to include pictures and notify the only part that's changed... I don't see an issue with that, myself.

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Originally Posted by EdenArchangel

Siobu, I will add the picture links to my post (directly after the OP) if you don't want to edit it

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Thank you, Eden! :)


To any late arrivals just now clicking 'last', we also have a German thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...itung-der-Maps

And French:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...415#post174415

Let's get crowned.

I so hope this thread gets a reply. This is one of the most bothersome things about this game to me. If they don't replace our current regions I hope they make some real breathtaking places to the north past Ishgard. So far the only areas i really like to be in are Coerthas and Mor Dhona.

Can't wait for the real adventure of explroring/fighting my way through really amazing areas to come :)

One little thing though, I need the list (of images) and instructions on how to hyperlink because I'm not savvy with all the forum functions :p

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Originally Posted by EdenArchangel

One little thing though, I need the list (of images) and instructions on how to hyperlink because I'm not savvy with all the forum functions :p

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Just copy paste the URL. It will automatically turn it into a link. If you are using the WYSIWYG editor, it might mess it up, though, so paste the URLs first, then add in text formatting later.

come on SE, take a note from your first REAL MMO, you had done it so well there, even the zones you grow to hate, you still love (im looking at you Dunes)

3 things that can make this game, or most any MMO feel brand new are 1) the world 2) the combat 3) the advancement/class system. They have 2 of them being worked on, and i think it will do well, but they still have one and possibly the hardest to go, lets hope after over 330 posts this gets a little attention.

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Originally Posted by Zahak

I so hope this thread gets a reply. This is one of the most bothersome things about this game to me. If they don't replace our current regions I hope they make some real breathtaking places to the north past Ishgard. So far the only areas i really like to be in are Coerthas and Mor Dhona.

Can't wait for the real adventure of explroring/fighting my way through really amazing areas to come :)

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While true that they are nice to be in, I think it is mostly due to the fact that they are a nice change from the same 3 starting zones. But if you were in that zone all the time, maybe it would start to be the same problem as thanalan, Black Shroud and La Noscea... I mean by that that the whole zone is still pretty much the same wherever you are (from what I saw). It's still a very big zone with the same stuff all over. All the zones need to be broken down in sub-zones and designed differently (while still blending in nicely) so that each part feels like a new experience when tou reach it.

They also need to get rid of that tunnel/linear way of designing the zones and make them more open in general.

@Siobu again, I've added the image: http://seahorror.com/sample.jpg
Are there more? And would you like any commentary/notes before the link?

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Originally Posted by Neptune

HOLY MOTHER OF THE TWELVE! You really hit the nail on the head. You see all the bottlenecks when you copy/paste the 11 zones on to each other? That must have been what they did, because Thanalan and the Shroud look the exact same, with bottlenecks in between regions. That literally is all they did, design 1 or 2 areas and then mass copy/paste it.

Now look at Thanalan, lol:

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...s-thanalan.jpg

The Black Shroud:

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...ack-shroud.jpg

Coerthas:

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...s-coerthas.jpg

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Good Gods. They are all the same map. /facepalm.

This is even worse than I thought.

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Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra

While true that they are nice to be in, I think it is mostly due to the fact that they are a nice change from the same 3 starting zones. But if you were in that zone all the time, maybe it would start to be the same problem as thanalan, Black Shroud and La Noscea... I mean by that that the whole zone is still pretty much the same wherever you are (from what I saw). It's still a very big zone with the same stuff all over. All the zones need to be broken down in sub-zones and designed differently (while still blending in nicely) so that each part feels like a new experience when tou reach it.

They also need to get rid of that tunnel/linear way of designing the zones and make them more open in general.

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You are correct sir! Good thoughts :D

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http://seahorror.com/sample.jpg

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This link really struck me as to what we're really seeing. I know the maps are all copypasta, but I never thought about it this well played out.

In regards to Yoshida's message about the areas, I'm glad he's taking in the consideration to redesign these areas. Whether or not this will tie in to the possible Umbral Age, if this game is to keep going for years to come, we need a fix on what's there.

OP, I have to hand it to you. You really brought the community together on a topic we're all agreeing with wholeheartedly.

Eden, I have also created this: http://seahorror.com/thoughts.jpg
Anything else is up to you. Thank you so much!

We need to be heard.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Good Gods. They are all the same map. /facepalm.

This is even worse than I thought.

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hehe they are very very similar and seeing the maps like that really emphazise the whole "tunnel" design they went for... makes the world kinda boring when you are restricted in an open-world...

There we go--- look alright?

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Good Gods. They are all the same map. /facepalm.

This is even worse than I thought.

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Wow, that is so horrible! :( SE please tell us your plans for the redesign of areas. Come on Bayohne and Rukkirii! We have a bone to pick with SE!

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Originally Posted by EdenArchangel

There we go--- look alright?

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It works great. Thank you, Eden.

I hope they inspire even more posters. How much louder must we shout, I wonder?

When you compare my FF11 map to a real FF11 map, I believe every one realizes it... They recall everything they would have missed in FF11 if they could never leave Sarutabaruta, Gustaberg, or Ronfaure. This is so critical. Critical to have a world.

It's critical to have progression in FF14.

I want to look back on 14 with nostalgia of my own.

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Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra

That this could be solved by making each sub-zones of the big regions different but still using the same eco-system theme like the drawing of the OP express http://seahorror.com/thoughts.jpg. So that each sub-zone would have it's own flavor and monster types and you would feel a progression by advancing to the next sub-zone.

Would be like combining Saruta, Taronhgi, Giddeus, Buburimu and the dungeons like the maze of shakrami and the towers un Saruta to be under a "seemless" region formed by all these different sub-zones with their own flavor but all with the same type of eco-system in the background.

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Perfectly worded, IMO. I think you presented the best and most realistic solution. This would give us zone variety, a progression path, and the seamless world that was so proudly promised in early interviews.

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Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra

No matter that all 3 starting area offer the same progressions and that we can go from 1-50 in either of these regions, it wouldn't feel boring if it was like that with different sub-zones. They could still reduce the starting regions to be from 1-35 and then Coertas and Mor Dhana to be 30-50.

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That's definitely the way it should be, IMO.

Black Shroud: 1-35
La Noscea: 1-35
Thanalan: 1-35
Coerthas: 30-50
Mor Dhana: 30-50

This still gives you a choice of places to level, but with the structure and progression we need.

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Originally Posted by Siobu

I definitely agree! I worried that if I were to edit my first post, that it would lose the 'likes' and possibly the attention of the reps. I didn't want to risk every one's hard work. Of course, if I'm wrong, I'd gladly add them. :)

Thank you!

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WTH that sucks, didn't know that you lose all the "Likes" if you edited the post

/stare Square-Enix - FIX IT!!! lol

watch the dev video "Link"

We need less barren/exact landscapes and more of those really diverse looking areas and landmarks.

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Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra

hehe they are very very similar and seeing the maps like that really emphazise the whole "tunnel" design they went for... makes the world kinda boring when you are restricted in an open-world...

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God, it was really just a slap in the face to see that. This game was announced to be in development in like, 04, 05ish and this sort of laziness was the product? What. Gosh, having it put in such a perspective is really disheartening. Here's the links again from Neptune:

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...s-thanalan.jpg

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...ack-shroud.jpg

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...s-coerthas.jpg

Paired with siobu's http://seahorror.com/sample.jpg

Showcases the general scheme of the zones, which are pretty much copied and rotated :< Gonna take a lot of work and a lot of complaints to get this ironed out, keep it coming.

If each sub-section of our current zones (Black Shroud, etc) were turned into a defined zone, with progression.. How many unique zones would that give us?

5 per region? Perhaps 20? 21, including Mor Dhona if it were one zone. But, even more if it were divided?

Coupling unique dungeons to join each or most zones, and short paths between them.. Webbing them together like a true world.

So many thoughts...

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

That's definitely the way it should be, IMO.

Black Shroud: 1-35
La Noscea: 1-35
Thanalan: 1-35
Coerthas: 30-50
Mor Dhana: 30-50

This still gives you a choice of places to level, but with the structure and progression we need.

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Thanks, and from what I have read of you and others as well you seem to see it the same way I do. We just need to stop think as the zones (like thanalan) as just 1 zone but a big region with multiple sub-zones that if designed differently from one another, we would not go into a depression thinking we are still in thanalan at higher levels. The big flaw is that regardless if you are rank 10 or 40, you still fight the same monsters and it's the same environment everywhere you look.

If they take OP's ideas from his sketches then you'd be fighting one type of mob, let's say squirrels and mushrooms from 1-10 in bentbranch in a woody type area, then you would make your way to emerald moss which would look like a thicket with maybe bigger bodies of water and you'd fight Yarzons and crabs from 10-15, then Tranquil which could be a thick forest and you'd fight Does and Lizards to get to level 20 and so on around the various SUB-zones of the shroud so that it would feel like you progress and you get to see new places (would actually help that if we would get a text when you reach different sub-zone). Then at 35 you could go to Coertas and Mor Dhana to get a similar progression within those region. There still could be remote places in the starting areas that could be way higher level for later.

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Originally Posted by Siobu

If each sub-section of our current zones (Black Shroud, etc) were turned into a defined zone, with progression.. How many unique zones would that give us?

5 per region? Perhaps 20? 21, including Mor Dhona if it were one zone. But, even more if it were divided?

Coupling unique dungeons to join each or most zones, and short paths between them.. Webbing them together like a true world.

So many thoughts.

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That's what would make the game feel a lot more like an adventure and feel like we progress through different places. I think there are between 5-10 different sub-zones in each zones. But then, even if they would make 4-5 different sub-zones for each zones, it would still make a big difference.

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Originally Posted by Siobu

Thank you, Eden! :)


To any late arrivals just now clicking 'last', we also have a German thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...itung-der-Maps

And French:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...415#post174415

Let's get crowned.

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We need to give some love to the German topic!

EDIT: ...and if SE says they don't have any plans for this and don't want to redraw the maps imo they aren't doing what we want and aren't listening to our feedback they are only listening to what is convenient. The overwhelming response to this topic makes it clear that everyone wants this and can't help but think that people who have long quit too might have seen this as a reason too as well. I hope they listen and I hope they have been/will work(ing) on it.

I haven't been following every single post in this thread but I'm really really glad to see something that everyone agrees on.

Forgive me if it's been suggested already as I likely missed it but I think there's more than just changing the world map that would need to be done.

I would also suggest that each mini zone have their own music. As you traveled through FFXI, the themes for each zone helped make them unique and memorable. There are so many unused tracks already I don't see why this wouldn't be possible if SE decides to fix this massive problem.

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Originally Posted by Siobu

If each sub-section of our current zones (Black Shroud, etc) were turned into a defined zone, with progression.. How many unique zones would that give us?

5 per region?

Perhaps 20?

21, including Mor Dhona if it were one zone. But, even more if it were divided?

So many thoughts.

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I dont know why each trailing sub-zone for each major zone couldn't showcase a greater variety in environment and mob placement. Having the rocky desert ease into some dunes, or a grassy savannah is beyond me. Or having the highlands of La Noscea ease into a lowland valley on the left side, and on the right up into a mountain peak, or rolling hills. If the variety was there, the constricting tunnels adjoining zones and copied maps would not be such an eyesore as they are now.

There was, and IS so much potential for fleshing out these zones, considering the ENORMITY of them. So much room to spill some creative juices! They have a foundation for some interesting places, but a foundation won't keep out the rain.

While i agree whats being said here i disagree at the same time. While FF XI had good zones most them eventually went unused a lot like the starter area's, Bibki bay, and tons of other places. Now what i do like about the current zones you can choose where you wanna level if i decide not to ever leave the thanalan region that's totally up to me SE has not forced one person to exp 1-50 in one region, this is all players choice there are plenty places to visit as i have already exp'ed on pirate's in mistbeard cave, bore's eyebat's bats and humanoid mobs in mun tuy cellars. Fighting the red crabs in the LL region even the undead mobs in the mines in the thanalan region.

What I'm trying to say is SE should not have to hold your hand and place mobs in a certain level range per region to make you feel like you have progressed, but i do agree the zones needs more landmarks and such.

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

I haven't been following every single post in this thread but I'm really really glad to see something that everyone agrees on.

Forgive me if it's been suggested already as I likely missed it but I think there's more than just changing the world map that would need to be done.

I would also suggest that each mini zone have their own music. As you traveled through FFXI, the themes for each zone helped make them unique and memorable. There are so many unused tracks already I don't see why this wouldn't be possible if SE decides to fix this massive problem.

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Oh goodness yes, the music.
Even after three years I can still match the music to areas in XI, and have images of the zones pop into my head.

It's a key point in giving each area/zone an identity.

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

I would also suggest that each mini zone have their own music. As you traveled through FFXI, the themes for each zone helped make them unique and memorable. There are so many unused tracks already I don't see why this wouldn't be possible if SE decides to fix this massive problem.

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I agree on this..we need more music variety to enhance the feel of each seperate sub zone. We also need more diversity in the look/weather/mood of each subzone that the music can change to!

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Originally Posted by Firon

While i agree whats being said here i disagree at the same time. While FF XI had good zones most them eventually went unused a lot like the starter area's, Bibki bay, and tons of other places. Now what i do like about the current zones you can choose where you wanna level if i decide not to ever leave the thanalan region that's totally up to me SE has not forced one person to exp 1-50 in one region, this is all players choice there are plenty places to visit as i have already exp'ed on pirate's in mistbeard cave, bore's eyebat's bats and humanoid mobs in mun tuy cellars. Fighting the red crabs in the LL region even the undead mobs in the mines in the thanalan region.

What I'm trying to say is SE should not have to hold your hand and place mobs in a certain level range per region to make you feel like you have progressed, but i do agree the zones needs more landmarks and such.

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Well in general people are asking for more options. So instead of like in XI where you were almost forced to go to Qufim (although not really), you would have 3 Qufims in FFXIV. Instead of being forced to go to Kazham, you would have 3 Kazhams...of course all different looking all with their own music and their own monsters. I think this would still give the player a choice, people wouldn't all congregate to one zone and we'd all have our variety.

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Originally Posted by Zahak

watch the dev video "Link"

We need less barren/exact landscapes and more of those really diverse looking areas and landmarks.

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At least we know who to blame for the terrible maps!

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Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra

Thanks, and from what I have read of you and others as well you seem to see it the same way I do. We just need to stop think as the zones (like thanalan) as just 1 zone but a big region with multiple sub-zones that if designed differently from one another, we would not go into a depression thinking we are still in thanalan at higher levels. The big flaw is that regardless if you are rank 10 or 40, you still fight the same monsters and it's the same environment everywhere you look.

If they take OP's ideas from his sketches then you'd be fighting one type of mob, let's say squirrels and mushrooms from 1-10 in bentbranch in a woody type area, then you would make your way to emerald moss which would look like a thicket with maybe bigger bodies of water and you'd fight Yarzons and crabs from 10-15, then Tranquil which could be a thick forest and you'd fight Does and Lizards to get to level 20 and so on around the various SUB-zones of the shroud so that it would feel like you progress and you get to see new places (would actually help that if we would get a text when you reach different sub-zone). Then at 35 you could go to Coertas and Mor Dhana to get a similar progression within those region. There still could be remote places in the starting areas that could be way higher level for later.

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Absolutely. I think this right here would solve a lot of issues. ^

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

I haven't been following every single post in this thread but I'm really really glad to see something that everyone agrees on.

Forgive me if it's been suggested already as I likely missed it but I think there's more than just changing the world map that would need to be done.

I would also suggest that each mini zone have their own music. As you traveled through FFXI, the themes for each zone helped make them unique and memorable. There are so many unused tracks already I don't see why this wouldn't be possible if SE decides to fix this massive problem.

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I agree that on top of a different design for each sub-zones, a different music would be more than helpfull to make them feel apart while still in the same big zone.

Hi All,

Definitely an important topic that I hope Yoshida-san and the Dev Team notices.

Reading through all 32 pages (so far), it's clear this is a major dissatisfaction with many players.

As to "Why?" it was done this way, looking back on the game now, it clearly seems like they ran out of time and/or were also hoping to "re-use" assets as much as possible to save money and development time. The massive amount of copy & pasting is evident everywhere in The Black Shroud (seeing the same River Crossing, same Trees, same Shrubbery all over the place). You notice it in Thanalan and La Noscea as well.

What adds to the frustration and boredom of the environments is also the "re-use" of THE SAME MONSTERS as well. Here's one quick example:

How many Mushroom monsters (who look exactly alike) do we really need? We have:

* Forest Funguar (Rank 1)
* Faerie Funguar
* Fallgourd Funguar
* Fumbling Funguar
* Funguar
* Stumbling Funguar
* Queen Bolete
* Shrieker (Rank 50 - 54)

ALL IN THE SAME AREA! Huh?!

Do we really need 8 types of Mushrooms (that look exactly alike) to level and grind on, in the same area?

It's understandable that a development team re-uses some art assets (it's a classic RPG recurrence ("Red Enemy" "Blue Enemy" "Green Enemy")), but the above example just shows how badly Square was Copy & Pasting not only their Environments but the Enemies as well.

Someone thought this was a good idea to save time / get the game out, but as we can see from this thread, it was far too noticeable and a bad decision.

To be fair, there *are* some gorgeous "Landmarks" / Areas in the game, but they are too few and far between. If anyone wants to see some beautiful areas, check out Sorrel Haven (27, 38), for an absolutely GORGEOUS area that's different from the rest of The Black Shroud... that NO ONE goes to, or knows about, since it's completely out of the way.

Or "The Mirror" Lake area around Five Hangs. Unique and beautiful, and unusable due to Rank 99 Goblins.

Square also put in some more unique creatures like the Guivre model (also re-used as Banescale Guivre, Doomvoid Guivre, Fire Drake, Inferno Drake, etc.). Awesome creature... that is pretty much wasted because most versions of it are unbalanced for Rank 1 - 50). Morbol is a fun fight, but also wasted, being put into ~Rank 70 areas near Lynxpatch Pelt.

As others have said (and I sent an e-mail Week 2 to SE via Lodestone Customer Support), the lack of unique environments (and monsters) is just too depressing and needs to be addressed.

I remember Week 1, when I learned about Camp Bentbranch (Rank 1 area). I thought, "OK this is nice." Then a Local Leve (Crafting) sent me to Camp Nine Ivies and Camp Crimson Bark (basically Rank 50 areas). I snuck around and made it to both camps, only to be completely underwhelmed:

"They look EXACTLY like Camp Bentbranch, but smaller." :(

And, around those Highest Level Camps (since we're Rank 50 Cap), I'm greeted by... Dormouse (basically a Star Marmot, tiny rat creature), and Shrieker (another Mushroom creature that looks just like the Rank 1 Forest Funguar I've been fighting).

THAT was pretty depressing.

There are interesting places now in Mor Dhona with Ogres and Rainbow Basilisks, but they're not really suited to SP on (unbalanced). We definitely need to get our 3 core Nations' Areas cleaned up, adding more UNIQUE detail to make them stand out. I think the one area that really stands out from the blandness of the 3 major areas is:

* Cassiopeia Hollow

It's visually different and interesting, and really stands out from the rest of La Noscea. We need more distinct areas like that for our starter areas.

Here are some quick examples of what SE could do that would make the areas stand out more:

* The Black Shroud *

• Rank 1 - 10: Camp Bentbranch region (キャンプ・ベントプランチ) (same as it is now, but with less tunnels :P)
• Rank 11 - 20: Five Hangs region / Mirror Lake (鹿落五橋). Open it up more, but have a whole region be in and around a giant LAKE with Harbors, etc.
• Rank 21 - 30: Sorrel Haven (スカンボの安息所): It's a gorgeous area, with flowing Rivers and a GIANT MANA TREE! :) This is already in the game.
• Rank 21 - 30 (Alternate): The Tam Tara Deepcroft / Mun-Tuy Cellars (タムタラの墓所) (Dungeons). They're fine as is.

If they just directed us to these distinct areas and removed the Copy & Paste Clutter, that'd make for a far better experience than what we have now (with some beautifying, but overall it could work).


* La Noscea *

• Rank 1 - 10: Camp Bearded Rock (キャンプ・ビアデッドロック) region (as it is now).
• Rank 11 - 20: South Bloodshore BEACH (サウス・ブラッドショア). The lower level Beach area (expanded a bit more), would be a distinct, "ocean side" battle area, with a gorgeous view. It could be like a "Valkurm Dunes" area for XIV. There are quite a few Beach / Coastline areas that are currently too small and unused.
• Rank 21 - 30: Cassiopeia Hollow (浮海月の巌穴) - Unique and different as is, already.
• Rank 21 - 30 (Alternate): The Isles of Umbra (幻影諸島です) - If you've been to The Isles of Umbra, it's a BEAUTIFUL area, high above the lands, with cliffs and climbing areas and then the huge open view overlooking the oceans. If they made this area usable for this rank, that'd give a unique experience as well.

Remove the extra Copy & Paste Clutter of La Noscea and give us those areas above, expanded, and that's another area that SE can deliver to us without too much rework.


* Thanalan *

• Rank 1 - 10: Camp Black Brush (ブラックブラッシュ). It's fine as is, for a basic Desert Starter area.
• Rank 11 - 20: Nanawa Mines (ナナワ銀山) - It's a Mining Dungeon area. It's different from the outside areas and they can keep their work on this.
• Rank 11 - 20: The Footfalls (Deep Canyon Area) (足跡の谷) - If anyone's been to The Footfalls (it's found via the Lower Canyon area going to The Docks (to get to the Ferry from Limsa -> Ul'dah)), it's a deep Canyon area, with Tall, Mountainous Walls, and Ravines. If they developed this area out more, added some cool Nausicaa Overgrown Spore Foliage and made THAT the Rank 20 Camp, that'd stand out far more than Drybone.
• Rank 21 - 30: Burnt Lizard Creek (with MORE of the Temple Architecture) (リザードクリーク): If anyone's seen the Hidden Temple in a cave in Burnt Lizard Creek, it's BEAUTIFUL and completely unused. (>_>) If they developed out more of this hidden Temple Architecture and added it to the area around Burnt Lizard Creek and maybe added something like an Active VOLCANO with Flowing Lava, that'd be a great Rank 30 area that'd be visually distinct.

Again, just some quick examples, but with changes like the above (and removing the extra Copy & Pasted generic areas inbetween), we'd HAVE UNIQUE, INTERESTING AREAS TO LEVEL UP IN.

Instead it was as if someone on the old team decided, "Let's save those unique areas for later patches / level cap raise. We can get away with Copy & Pasting the same starter textures and geometry all over the 3 regions and it'll be fine." :(

Here's to hoping we get some changes with the coming 7th Umbral Age that was hinted at on Lodestone ("Storm Over Gridania"), and that SE listens to our pleas. :)

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Originally Posted by Mack

Well in general people are asking for more options. So instead of like in XI where you were almost forced to go to Qufim (although not really), you would have 3 Qufims in FFXIV. Instead of being forced to go to Kazham, you would have 3 Kazhams...of course all different looking all with their own music and their own monsters. I think this would still give the player a choice, people wouldn't all congregate to one zone and we'd all have our variety.

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I like the way you think Mack! Choices are always welcome. Just imagine all the places you could explore ranking up multiple classes if you took a different path for each.

That was wonderful, Kiara! I love all of your ideas, thank you for taking the time to write all of it down for us. And I agree that the storm would be a perfect opportunity for change.

And to every one, I agree with music as well.

Our world can become so much more. We all see it.

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

At least we know who to blame for the terrible maps!

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you know what else too? lol

Is that at the top of the video it says "Game images shown are under development"... yet this is exactly what the world looks like today lol... it's so sad it makes me laugh.