Monks very weak. Need rebalance

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Originally Posted by Talespinlol

Demolish has no effect.
Demolish has no effect.
Demolish has no effect.

Anyone else have their rotations ruined by this retardedness? I cast Demolish, start hitting Dragon Kick or something but then Demolish doesn't hit (doesn't miss either) and I watch as my GL stacks tick off. Why is this game so broken?

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Yup. Ive had that happen quite a few times. Lots of things need to looked into by the design/dev team to fix hopefully they'll get around to it.

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Originally Posted by roflcaust

What about the many, many fights where we lose our 3 stacks of GL? What about the fights where moving is required? What about fights where you have to catch up to the tank? What about fights where you to turn on Fists of Wind and then Fists of Fire to maximize DPS-throughput?

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The damage doesn't stop when GL goes down. You get it right back up and keep DPSing.

I feel like we're at an impasse in this discussion without reliable parsers. If someone reports MNK out-DPS'd everyone, the argument is "the rest of your party was bad." If someone reports MNK was out-DPS'd by someone else, then the monksux claim is "supported." Hell, this would happen even if we had reliable parsers. =/

Many of you need to accept GL3 will sometimes go down despite our best efforts. Treat GL3 as an ideal rather than a baseline. MNK is built around momentum, and if there was never an obstacle to that momentum they may as well have a little box pop up that says:

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Would you like +15% damage? [YES] [NO]

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Now, I'm not arguing against a longer GL duration or retooling the job, but be careful what you all wish for. If they make durations longer, they are surely going to weaken the effect.

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Originally Posted by Talespinlol

Demolish has no effect.
Demolish has no effect.
Demolish has no effect.

Anyone else have their rotations ruined by this retardedness? I cast Demolish, start hitting Dragon Kick or something but then Demolish doesn't hit (doesn't miss either) and I watch as my GL stacks tick off. Why is this game so broken?

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You are trying to apply a Demolish - but this is true for any DoT - that is weaker than the Demolish currently applied.

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Originally Posted by Subucnimorning

Just started turn 4...curious to any monks who have done this fight do you feel like we are the worst class for this encounter?

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I think monk is very strong in this fight, perma GL*3.

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Originally Posted by Talespinlol

Demolish has no effect.
Demolish has no effect.
Demolish has no effect.

Anyone else have their rotations ruined by this retardedness? I cast Demolish, start hitting Dragon Kick or something but then Demolish doesn't hit (doesn't miss either) and I watch as my GL stacks tick off. Why is this game so broken?

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You can't overwrite a buffed dot by a normal one.

You guy do realize monk is only class par with pal can not make over 1k Dmg per hit. That is pretty bad. Even war can make 1k Dmg by 1 hit. Do we attack twice faster than other class? hell no. Monk will be worest class for pvp later. If you have no burst Dmg in pvp, GG. Chase people to maintain light3 :p. Mage see 1.5k Dmg easily and not cast much slower than Monk. Monk has serious issue. Not a little bit. Who say monk is fine pretty much only use his right side brain. No logical only with feeling.

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Originally Posted by neoreturn

You guy do realize monk is only class par with pal can not make over 1k Dmg per hit. That is pretty bad. Even war can make 1k Dmg by 1 hit. Do we attack twice faster than other class? hell no. Monk will be worest class for pvp later. If you have no burst Dmg in pvp, GG. Chase people to maintain light3 :p. Mage see 1.5k Dmg easily and not cast much slower than Monk. Monk has serious issue. Not a little bit. Who say monk is fine pretty much only use his right side brain. No logical only with feeling.

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I'm using the "full side of my brain" and I'm telling you monks do not have a "serious problem".

If you think so you need to reroll, because you picked the wrong class. We won't ever be hitting over 1k any time soon.

I know monks that can keep up with well geared bards. Good bards mind you, as long as they are equally geared and start out relatively at the same time on the same target. Though that can be said of most classes. I think someone should choose a easier class if you think monk needs to be buffed lol.

I don`t play a monk but from what I have seen, monks dps is pretty high and decent constant.

I rather guess OP is a weak player and not capable of handling him among some other players here.

Monks are terrible. Everyone should go BLM. Then when you're BLM, make a thread to complain about BRD.

Meanwhile in Binding Coil...

<Paladin> Hey Monk, can you hold off on the adds when they pop because you're ripping hate off me too easily.
<Bard> Bwahaha, Quelling Strikes!
<Monk> It's not easy being top DPS on some fights.
<Dragoon> DRG (Looking for Party) (Crawler's Nest)
<Summoner> Better watch it Monk, almost passed you on that last one!
<Monk> But I thought Summoner was the worst DPS?
<Summoner> No, according to a bunch of people's opinions that's YOU!

Three days later...

<Dragoon> DRG (Looking for Party) (Crawler's Nest) (Will Party for Food) (Please?)




TL;DR. There are 100 of these unique butterfly DPS posts with everyone complaining about their class. Go gear up and do Binding Coil and (assuming you don't suck and you can actually do it) then report some actual data that matters. INC post about BC being too hard.

I don't understand what the point of this post is? I personally believe its just for trolls to lay their eggs.

I mean what do you want? Everyone in the game to stop playing or inviting monks because you feel they are too weak? That's not going to happen. You don't have to invite monks or play monk. It's in your power to do so, but why spread your negative attitude to the other players because you lack in the performance department?