Stunbot is NOT fun

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Originally Posted by Colyo

how about everyone stops standing in shit then a single missed stun wouldnt kill the lot of you

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DF doesn't care, glass cannon FTW
i really hope they will make ifrit immune to stun

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

This is a rather ridiculous post..."Pics or it didn't happen!". Just because you can't do it or have never seen it happen doesn't mean that a single tank can't handle both tanking Ifrit and stunning Eruption. I've personally done it many times, despite being told it was "impossible". It's merely a case of learning the pattern in his attacks and properly managing your GCD so that you're always ready with the stun.

Add to this the fact that stunning isn't even necessary to win the fight since by the time you're level 50 you should have learned to not stand in the bad stuff. Eruption is blatantly obvious, it's kinda hard to miss the glowing cracks under your feet.

What I would suggest to you is grabbing a group from your FC so that you don't have to deal with snobbish DF trash that always seems to show up (yes, I'm talking about the same ones who drop party as soon as they see there's no AoE LB) and practice it. Roll with the standard DF setup of two tanks and just work on timing your GCDs. What I found helped me the most was working as much DPS as I could in between stuns when I was the off-tank, then when I was comfortable with the pattern I just told my group that I wanted to try to tank and stun.

Just remember that pre-Nails he'll always do an Eruption immediately following the Rush when he lands in front of you and again immediately following his knock back move (can't recall the name of it). Post-Nails it's a simple pattern of Plumes > Plumes > Eruption > Plumes > Eruption > Rush.

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Recall that I stated I believe it can be done. The point of showing proof is to convince the DF a-holes who cuss out PLDs for missing a single interrupt and rage-quit after a single failed attempt. Nothing short of hard evidence will convince them that their method is not the only method.

Now that I've run this several times (and finally got my weapon) I don't have any trouble interrupting, but I still find the whole Trial horribly dull. It's ridiculously hard when you're new, and ridiculously trivial when you're experienced. 1-button to victory... whoopie...

As I recall Ifrit pre-Nails does not always Erupt right after Crimson Cyclones. As often as not he'll throw out a fire breath and even one or two knockbacks before he Erupts, and even when he does Erupt first the exact second of it always varies.

Also, I'm all for people learning to GTFO from AoEs, but post-50% HP Eruptions cover most of the map, so is it really avoidable at that point? Has anyone here successfully run Ifrit HM as a DD/Healer without any Eruptions getting interrupted? We give them a lot of flak for not understanding our role, but do we really understand theirs?

Why is the PLD stunning in the first place? Other classes can stun. Let them do it. If they die, tell them they can be the stun-bitch.

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Originally Posted by ZenBear

You're not the first to say this, but I've yet to see anyone prove it. If you have a link to a video that shows yourself or some other PLD tanking HM Ifrit and interrupting him, pleas add it as I'm sure everyone would like to see it.

I don't doubt your claim, but the "stun bot" mechanic has been so prevalent since launch that I feel the only way to banish it from the current meta is to provide hard evidence disproving its necessity.

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I could easily do so,

Phase 1 - Eruption after Dash, Eruption shortly after Vulcan
Phase 2 - Eruption after Radiant Plume (Exterior) Eruption after Radiant Plume (Interior) Eruption shortly after Infernal Nails spawns
Phase 3 - Eruption after Radiant Plume (Exterior) and (Interior) Eruption shortly after Radiant Plume (Entire Map)

Its rather simple once you've got the patterns down

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Originally Posted by Toranja

Why is the PLD stunning in the first place? Other classes can stun. Let them do it. If they die, tell them they can be the stun-bitch.

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no CD on stun

and since there are 2 tanks and only 1 boss to be tanked....

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

Add to this the fact that stunning isn't even necessary to win the fight since by the time you're level 50 you should have learned to not stand in the bad stuff. Eruption is blatantly obvious, it's kinda hard to miss the glowing cracks under your feet.

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Interrupting Eruptions has the added benefit of charging up your LB bar, especially during pre-Infernal Nails as not interrupting Eruptions in Phase 1 & 2 (before nails) would ensure that you will not have a Lv.3 LB during the Nails phase

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

no CD on stun

and since there are 2 tanks and only 1 boss to be tanked....

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There's 4 DDs and one boss to be damaged, so... Plus, the class that is best apt to be should be the stun-bitch is the LNC.

If I was a PLD, I would just show up on the HM Ifrit fight and refuse to stun. You DDs have legs and stuns. Use them.

I know this all has been said but just gonna put out my experience. It freaking sucks being the stunner, whats the point of even having a mechanic like this in a game? To torture one particular player?

Zone out for a few millisecond everyone's dead and mad at you. I just say "Resist" every time I miss, usually no one bothers to check the log. I'm human I zone off at times and I make mistakes.

I'm 0/38 on Ifrit's fire sword(approximately) so I hope you all understand my bitterness :p

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Originally Posted by ReiszRie

I could easily do so

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Read the post you quoted: I never say "It can't be done." In fact my exact wording is "I don't doubt your claim"

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Originally Posted by Toranja

There's 4 DDs and one boss to be damaged, so... Plus, the class that is best apt to be should be the stun-bitch is the LNC.

If I was a PLD, I would just show up on the HM Ifrit fight and refuse to stun. You DDs have legs and stuns. Use them.

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DRG Stun 20sec CD
MNK Stun 20/40sec CD
WAR Stun 30sec CD
PLD Stun 2,5sec CD

can you see now why PLDs are good stunnbitches? xD