New Job System Incoming!!! - But what does this mean??

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Originally Posted by Abriael

At least you admit it.

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The fact that I was testing how long you'd keep on biting doesn't make what I was saying any less true, by the way. Don't misunderstand!

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Originally Posted by viion

probably got mentioned but "weapon type" doesnt really mean anything even now, a weapon has a class aligned to it and your class is defined by the one stated on the weapon, you can use two-handed staffs or wand/clubs on both conjurer and thaumaturge, its just the class is decided by what they choose for that weapon, even if both weapons are of identical type.

But i agree it is most likely a topper system, so you pick a class and then you can have any weapon on it. like XI.

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The Equipped item for Conjurer and Thaumaturge are the Focus, their real weapon is their Delivery of magic which is Circle or Cone AOE respectively.

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Originally Posted by Jericho

I don't agree that a gladiator is a "sword user" and an archer is a "bow user", regardless of what the translations say or what those words "mean". My job is an archer, and I am limited to bows. The level of my job determines my skills and hp and mp and def and eva and acc and everything else that makes you able to hold your own in a higher setting. In a literal sense, how well I use a bow should have nothing to do with my hp. I don't want to feel like I'm leveling up weapons. That doesn't feel like FF to me. I want to level up jobs, and use weapons, whether I am limited in my weapon selection or i have every weapon available. It just doesn't feel right.

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Inversely Rangers are not limited to bows, Guns, crossbows, or throwing weapons though.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Please god I hope not, Talent Trees would not be necessary in a Armoury/Job System.

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:) Now that something i can agree with you. Talent tree would kill the game for me.

I don't care if they completely gut the existing classes I have ranked and turn them into jobs. I just worry about my Final Fantasy feeling like a Final Fantasy.. which it seems more and more geared towards with these little bits of information. Although, I will have to say this isn't a complete shock that they are going in this direction. It was hinted at long before now, but still exciting that it's confirmed to still be full steam ahead.

I highly enjoyed Kuro's ideas on the subject and I hope the Development Team is roughly on the same page. Cheers, guys!

I am in favour of removing Physical Level and replacing with Job Level. In order to do so they will need to strip back the current classes (weapon specialisation) to do it.

If they strip the weapons back to weapon skill's only and then add the skills and abilities they learn to the new Job System instead I would be very happy. So for MRD Skull Sunder, Trunk Splitter and so on would be weapon skill's tied to the Great Axe. Then the Job could be MRD/WAR and it would learn Bloodbath, Warmonger, Foresight and so on. With this system I could equip a sword and still have full use of my WAR/MRD abilities but the weapon skills would be from the Sword/GLA side so Onion Cut, Spin Stroke, Red Lotus and so on.

This just got really funny really fast.

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/g...eb88f45a75.jpg

Popcorn time!

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Originally Posted by solracht

The fact that I was testing how long you'd keep on biting doesn't make what I was saying any less true, by the way. Don't misunderstand!

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That doesn't make it any less true. The simple fact that it was untrue makes it so, don't misunderstand!
By your logic, everyone that leveled a ninja sub in FFXI is a tank.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

That doesn't make it any less true. The simple fact that it was untrue makes it so, don't misunderstand!
By your logic, everyone that leveled a ninja sub in FFXI is a tank.

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Your job didn't really make you a tank, its what you did in a party that did.

A Thief/dancer can tank. It isn't pretty and you need a hella good support healer, but its viable.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Your job didn't really make you a tank, its what you did in a party that did.

A Thief/dancer can tank. It isn't pretty and you need a hella good support healer, but its viable.

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Viable != being defined by the role of tanking.
There are classes that are tanks, and classes that can be viable for tanking in situational instances due to the utsusemi exploit and similar. That doesn't make them tanks.

God forbid we end up in FFXIV in the aberrant situation in which specialized tanks may be excluded from their own role because they deal less damage